Re: [ANN][OC] Orangecoin v2.0.3 ✦ PoS ✦ Anon ✦ Masternode Whitepaper ✦ Get Juiced!

Wow,

I am torn, and feel horrible. Embarrassed

I am trying to recover my Raven Account as I type this. I haven't logged in since I had to travel recently, until I got back yesterday.

Soop,

First of all, I do apologize for my rant. You came through! (This is why I feel horrible.)

Secondly, The reason why I am torn is why was crysx saying all of this....stuff? I Understand you're a busy man working on huge project(s) which Congrats on the NAV 2.0 BTW. UGH *confused* *Somucheffort*

Anyways, to prove I am Raven

~~I am updating BTCGarden to bumb the version and posting the Revision notes and links.~~ Done

Cheers!

-Raven

there are a number of reasons why - and soopy knows the full extent of it ...

soopy and i have worked side by side on a few things - especially granite droidz ...

@soopy ... once again soopy - the conversation we had on pm has gone by the wayside ...

its been 3days - hence why i do and say the things i do and say ...

there is no 'granite is next' soopy ... it has never been nor ever will be 'next' ...

promises are made to be kept - not broken ...

@raven - there are too many thing that are happen in the background - and too many different promises / actions that have occurred - for me to be silent about this ...

how can my team and i be a part of system that continues to sway so easily from side to side - because its so desperate for development? ...

i was given the go ahead by you and halo - and now soopy is 'back' - things have reverted back to the way they were? ... no tanx - that is a very weak way of doing things - and a very weak way of making 'deals' ... which also means that your word is no more of a bond than the so called cohesion that this community is displaying ...

i KNOW what will happen now - and KNOW what the outcome of this will be ... look at the droidz ( the latest one ) thread and read up on the similarities ... as well as pex and loco and a few others ...

this way of working is a disgusting display of how one should NEVER behave - as with other coins mentioned like droidz ...

#crysx

Reminder: Soopy is in a unique position here at OC, the arrangement was he would fix and maintain our code, and if he could (based on available time or ability), he'd provide more like Masternodes. His official title is: Consultant Developer & Technical Advisor, OP Access. This leans towards a temporary dev title along the lines of if OC code had problems, we consult soopy to fix them, OR if we wanted a feature, we could consult him to see if it would be easy or a project to incorporate, while allowing him the chance to chime in or implement those features. His "baby" is NAV, that's where he's a full dev. Other than the non-delivery on his public post promises concerning anything more than OC code maintenance, he's doing what he said he would for us.

Like you said, soopy is 'back', but it was news to (at least) me when he posted that. Soopy has not been in contact with me for a long time (months and months and months) via PM's or anywhere else, save for the public convo's in the thread for all to read. He didn't say anything prior to release about what he was doing with this new update. Frustrating, but not the end of the world but only since I saw his post quick enough to get everything updated within a enough of a timely fashion before it could reflect back on us all for not having everything updated.

I think he has too much going on (hence maybe why he mislabeled his own OC github link?), and all coins that he's involved in might/will suffer because of the lack of time he can invest per coin.

I'd just like to see someone or a team work OC. The community is not demanding a full time gig from anyone but we need more than what's been served in ways of actual development. If you wanted, you could fork it and soopy would be out -- if by chance you couldn't work together. Simple as that. No hard feelings or "digs" towards soopy when I say that either, but I'm thinking it would alleviate some of his "workload" so he could focus on his other coins, again, if you couldn't work together.

Soopy's absence isn't the driving force to finding another dev or "talent" as I often say. He wasn't meant to stay with OC forever unless he wanted to, which he had the option.

firstly - that is NOT what was pm'ed me not so long ago - and NOT what has happened ... or is it easier to quote the pms? ...

secondly - there is NEVER a time that soopy and i cannot work with each other ... i have a LOT of respect for soopy as a person and a LOT of respect for him as a dev ... as for his reliability? ... well ...

there is MUCH more to this than is publicly shown - and soopy KNOWS the extent to which he and i have dealt - and have continued to deal ... i pull NO punches - never have and never will ... i say things as i see them and will NEVER change that ... had there been an equitable system put in place - there would be no one pushing and shoving and praising ... but as there is no system in place - your suggestion of my forking the source and working on it - is a blatant misrepresentation of what WE ( raven and i ) had discussed earlier with your apparent knowledge halofire ... especially with regards to my involvement ... the time and effort and money involved in doing this RIGHT - is more than i or my team was willing to do without some form of compensation and / or affiliation or complete takeover ... THAT was the bottom line ... and what was teh response raven gave me in return to it? ... read back on the pms and refresh your memory mate - or ask for a copy from raven ...

which ever way this works now - it is entirely up to you all HOW you deal with this ... its no skin off my nose ... i just dont like the miscommunication AND the false representations of myself and my team - and the things that were and were NOT said ...

if soopy WANTS to work with me on this - he can ... but the garbage about him being 'just' a consultant and he could return anytime he felt and the rest of the blurb - was NEVER brought to my attention here in the thread NOR in private ...

im astounded at what has transpired ... and STILL you continue on about it all being an open discussion and praising soopy about his coming 'back' ... seriously mate! ...

i deal - and work - and make clean and DO the things i say im going to do ... so far - its simply talk - and nothing but ... so let it be just that ... and there will be no hard feelings anywhere ... but when the cookie crumbles and all is stagnant once again - just remeber this situation and what you have said and NOT said ...

im still open for discussion - but not at this level ...

@soopy - stick to what you say and what you promise mate ... too many people of the communities you deal with RELY on your word - and your word as a gentleman ...

you KNOW how i work soopy - raven and halo dont ... and ill continue to work the same as i have - and we have grown much bigger than when you first dealt with me ... deal clean - deal well ...

and much respect - to you and all that deserve it ...

#crysx