Re: IDEAL: no ICOs, no proof-of-work, no proof-of-stake, no governance, and no forks
Ethereum hard forks and violates the entire raison d'être of block chains:
Nope. There is no moving on from violating the only reason we even want block chains which is that we don't have to trust anyone that our contracts will be honored.
It is not FUD. It is just our opinion of the point of block chains. Those who agree with you that block chains should be permissioned ledgers like a fiat system or Paypal, will stay with ETH.
But as others are pointing out to you, violating the raison d'être of block chains is very likely to cause you to lose most of the community support. You'll only be left with idiots, R3 bankers, and the whales who've been allegedly pumping this token by manipulating the float on Poloneix and Krakan.
Ah so Ethereum is a governed token system now with actual departments? This is sounding awefully similar to the government structures that are collapsing all over the world due to corruption and special interests capturing the power vacuum.
I was being facetious. Sorry it needed pointed out.
Freudian slip, because you were actually telling the truth for a change.
Finally we can move on!
Nope. There is no moving on from violating the only reason we even want block chains which is that we don't have to trust anyone that our contracts will be honored.
Agreed. The disgusting vile FUD that's been spread by the haters has been pathetic. If you don't hold ETH you don't get a say in how it's run so why spread FUD? The ETH community has spoke in a landslide consensus.
It is not FUD. It is just our opinion of the point of block chains. Those who agree with you that block chains should be permissioned ledgers like a fiat system or Paypal, will stay with ETH.
But as others are pointing out to you, violating the raison d'être of block chains is very likely to cause you to lose most of the community support. You'll only be left with idiots, R3 bankers, and the whales who've been allegedly pumping this token by manipulating the float on Poloneix and Krakan.
Wow 2% of the ETH voted and that is supposed to be mandate 
Even if 100% had voted, my reaction would remain as follows...
Long live fiat! Hurray!
This is absolutely momentous day for it validates everything I am have been working on1.
Utilizing the blockchain, a transparent and non-gameable voting method shows that out of more than 1.5 million eth, 97%, valued currently at $15 million, are in favor of the fork, with only just above 40,000 eth against.
Even if 100% had voted, my reaction would remain as follows...
Long live fiat! Hurray!
This is absolutely momentous day for it validates everything I am have been working on1.
Also PoS (including DPoS) is basically a permissioned, centralized system, because the whales will control it.
If we just wanted a centralized, persmissioned system, then we don't need block chains. We could do that more efficiently. We have it already, it is named Paypal.
The only way you scale this globally, is if nobody owns it. This is why Paypal can't disrupt the existing financial structure of the world. Too many vested interests fighting turf battles.
If we just wanted a centralized, persmissioned system, then we don't need block chains. We could do that more efficiently. We have it already, it is named Paypal.
The only way you scale this globally, is if nobody owns it. This is why Paypal can't disrupt the existing financial structure of the world. Too many vested interests fighting turf battles.
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But I will forward your concerns on to the relevant department.
Ah so Ethereum is a governed token system now with actual departments? This is sounding awefully similar to the government structures that are collapsing all over the world due to corruption and special interests capturing the power vacuum.
I was being facetious. Sorry it needed pointed out.
Freudian slip, because you were actually telling the truth for a change.