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Board Scam Accusations
Re: 20 reasons because Tom/Cablepair is a scammer.
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bsgmz
on 25/02/2013, 16:22:56 UTC
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7. Because Tom has not explained what happened with CAN-ELECTRIC?
That still doesn't make him a scammer.  It probably means he is busy processing refunds, since those are constantly being reported (see Fefox's post from last night).
Fefox's not explain what happened to CAN-ELECTRIC.

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8. Because Tom has not explained the refund process?
What's complex about it?  Chargeback your credit card or request a refund and wait - that's it.  I just explained it for you.
Tom has not sent me any email. People have had to organize inside the forum, Tom has not provided any information. Time or rate of change for refunds their bitcoins.

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11. The Tom ASICs were real? There is evidence, pictures, documents, videos? Tom built something? 10%, 20%, 50%, 80%, 99%?
If I recall, the design phase for the chip was at some stage of completion.  Perhaps you could put in an offer to buy the company from whoever owns it currently.
Why would have to put money in buying the company failed to Tom?

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12. I did not want to give me my money. I wanted my asics in December, although it could accept a delay until January.
So you cancelled your order once January came?   Then why are you whining?
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Rest assured we will try to maximize any engineering opportunity that won't introduce further delays.
http://goo.gl/9qA2w

I whining because basics not ship in December or January.

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13. Believe that the change in price of bitcoins has benefited Tom?
And if they would have dropped in value... ?  That still doesn't make him a scammer.
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14. Those who have received refunds in bitcoins. They think they would have more or less money if they had the bitcoins in your wallet?
So, the unit was priced in DOLLARS.  Why is that so hard to understand?  You will be refunded in DOLLARS.  Yes, had you speculated you could have made a profit, but if BTC was $5 right now, you'd want your refund in dollars.
I do not know. Perhaps would have returned the price bitcoins or dollars. But curiously always lucky is with Tom. Many people think that Tom is getting money with bitcoin price increase.

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16. I made a bet in less than six months would get more bitcoins, that I spend on basics. I do not bet, money back with bitcoins months later with a new price. I was not responsible for Tom incompetence.
You were an investor in a very risky business.  Many people in your situation receive absolutely nothing back and don't complain about it.
Many people have suffered biggest scams does not mean that this is not a scam. I have not received anything.

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17. I have my bitcoins committed to Tom, I had the option to buy asics at other companies.
This is called "putting all your eggs in one basket."
I didn't say I put all my eggs in Tom's basket. But, all eggs in this basket are crashed. I haven't use these eggs.


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18. I requested my refund on the night of 13 to 14 January. A few days after I value bitcoins Dave at $ 15. With that price I already lost bitcoins. Tom waited without consulting a price more beneficial for him. Why have not I received my bitcoins?
Because you're on a very long list of people waiting for bitcoin refunds (Fefox was order # 8xx, and if you ordered in November, yours is MUCH higher).
Why not freeze the price at $15? What is the reason to continue speculating on the price of my bitcoins? If bitcoins have dropped in price, Tom would have said that the $ 15 was a good price? Tom is play with card marking.

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19. I don't understand why people thank Tom, after that will return less than 50% of their bitcoins.
Again, see the definitions of investment and risk and bankruptcy.  He didn't have to return anything.
Thanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy#Fraud and add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damages

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Yes it sucks you're having to wait so long for a refund, but you took the risk to push out to January 13/14 when there were quite a few signals that things were turning south before then.  The drunk post apparently didn't scare you away - that was around the 8th as I recall.  Since you cite that above as "proof he's a scammer," why didn't you pull your chips out at that time?
1. I'm not on the forums every day.
2. My English is not enough to tell if someone is drunk. While I recognize that in this post I was hard to understand.
3. Are you trying to say I'm guilty for taking long time to request a refund?