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Re: Mr. Lutpin and the Betcoin incident
by
Quickseller
on 04/08/2016, 04:29:08 UTC
From what I read and found myself searching around betcoin.ag they are in deep trouble due to the way their software supplier did not honor a jackpot. They handled the situation, but rather poorly. There are also plenty other unresolved issues. Thus I think a warning was needed. I personally would not advertise for them and get out of a contract ASAP. Other people will come to their own conclusions and it can be different from my own. I will not add negative rating to participants for advertising the casino, but it will probably have a lasting impression on me. Not that I believe many care about that.
I do agree that betcoin.ag is at best a very shady site, and more realistically an outright scam site who selectively scams it's players. I also agree that it is probably best not to advertise for betcoin.ag, and I would not personally advertise for them, even if that meant loosing out financially (eg not receiving a payment for signature advertising for some period of time).

I do not think that the scam surrounding betcoin.ag has reached the point that negative trust is appropriate for anyone that advertises for them. I don't think there is a clear line as to when negative trust is appropriate when advertising a scam site however I don't think betcoin.ag has crossed this line. Regardless, in my experience, all it will take to get someone to stop advertising a shady site is a simple PM letting them know about your concerns about them advertising the shady/scam website.

I also think it is outright ridiculous to say that people can advertise for a scam site until they get paid next; that is not doing anything other then trying to show others "who is in charge".

First off I wasn't aware of any scam accusations against this website when I joined 2 months ago.
Neither was I, at the time when I joined. I ended up being a participant for less than 10 days (IIRC) in July.
This is a lie. You were aware of scam accusations about betcoin.ag back in March:

I think its wrong to manage ad campaign and try to keep the members from knowing truth about business they advertise for.  
Every accusation against betcoin is backed up with evidence.
Well, IMO posting that in their signature campaign is not right. From what I see there is already an on-going scam accusation against them to which they are not responding to. If there is adequate amount of evidence, then it would be best to contact people from DT as they might mark the service (if they have an account) or the promoted with negative trust.


Note: I have not looked closely into the accusation and can't say whether it is valid or not.
According to this thread, you were also told by multiple people about why you should not advertise betcoin.ag on multiple occasions, over multiple days. You only left the campaign after you received a lot of public pressure to cease advertising for them. Prior to receiving this public pressure, you make it well known that checking if betcoin.ag is shady/a scam was very low on your priority list after you started advertising for them.