segwit serialized blocksize=4mb
segwit=4mb blocksize increase but still only 1mb traditional transaction space

"real bitcoin" please stop trying to push the 'hardfork=bloat' bait and switch.. its so wrong on so many levels.
the only downside of a consensus change is controversy.

i hope you realise the same tactics needed to make a second chain survive a hard fork are the same changes needed on a soft fork.
people can IP ban any nodes that have upgraded and use the minority hashpower to make non segit blocks.

so softforks are just as controversial as hard forks if they choose to be
if you want to dream that soft forks are better because unupgraded nodes can continue to run after a soft fork. then your delusional again. they are rendered litenodes automatically because they no longer validate full data. no one should describe notes that dont validate as full nodes.

no controversy: even in soft/hard forks there is a choice: upgrade or be left as no longer being a full node.
controversy: even in soft/hard forks there is a choice: upgrade or block upgraded nodes and form a alt..

wake up and stop eating the spoonfed honey you have been treated to.

by the way answer the question i asked before
when luke JR releases CORE segwit 2mb will you finally accept you doomsday of "controversy" is over because the factions ALL have code, and no longer a one team vs another team