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I recommend that the current user of the Phoenix1969 account should cooperate with its original creator and Bitcointalk to return control of the account to him. The current user should also provide the information regarding who gave control of the account to him so that the history regarding the account can be traced. I have placed a note on the trust profile not to trust the account since it has been used for deceptive marketing practices. I will remove the notice once I receive confirmation in Lisk chat that the creator of the account has regained access.
There's no proof that the original owner didn't at some point sell the account and because this deal never surfaced is now claiming that the account was hacked. Are you forgetting that the original owner also dishonestly marketed himself by posting a screenshot in April on the Lisk forums to apply for a delegate spot which shows the last activity being in April when he no longer had control over the account? He deceitfully convinced people to vote for him as a Lisk delegate using an account he no longer even had control of!
The current user of the account has publicly stated that the account was given to him - not sold - to use. Until the current user provides the information on who gave him access to the account, it cannot be determined if that person gained access by hacking it from the original owner, bought it from the original owner, or in turn, acquired it from 1 or a chain of other people between the original owner and the person the current user received it from. By ignoring my questions and suggestions, the current user has made it clear he has no interest in returning it to the original owner who has repeatedly stated it was stolen from him, and has shown no interest in cooperating in providing information to settle the dispute.
My focus is on the fact that the account has been reported to be stolen, the current user has stated himself that the account was used for deceptive marketing, and he has not agreed to cooperate in returning the account to its original owner. Other activities by the original owner of the account are not relevant to the matter.
Maybe the current user can show a signed contract and bill of sale between him and the original owner giving him the right to use the account.
Do you ask for a bill of sale or contract when you ask to borrow your friend's Netflix account or their account on a forum so you can download something or on a game? You're a funny guy.
Doesn't matter if he sold it or not. It was clearly his account, the current user hasn't proven that he acquired it with the consent of its owner, the owner has reported it stolen, and it was used for deceptive marketing by the current user.
Of course it matters. If you sold me a bike, I bought it and paid for it and then a year later you call the cops and tell them I stole your bike what do you think would happen. They would just give it back to you?
What if I could prove I had the bike for a year, and showed them pictures with you and me and the bike always with me riding it and parked in my garage.
Its the same thing here. Dont you understand or are you just a paid troll here to fud for cheap coins?
You cant sell something to someone and then claim you lost it or it got hacked or whatever.
Thats not how it works.
Ya know. I borrow my friends ps4 account every now and again so I can play call of duty on his account because he has everything unlocked and is a 10th prestige. Who in their right mind would ask for a bill of sale for that from a freind?
The friend would probably get pretty upset if you changed the password and payment info so he could no longer use the account with the prestige he had earned.
So are you saying that Mr president lent the account to a friend and that friend stole it?
I thought he forgot the password and just forgot about the account.
Hummmm
Why does the story keep changing?
Others brought up the analogy about borrowing an account from a friend with his consent. I'm responding that in this case, it would be more like borrowing an account from a friend and then changing the login so he no longer has access to the account.
As far as the current case regarding the Phoenix1969 account, I have no way of knowing if access to the account was given away by its original owner, someone else, hacked, or even, for some odd reason, still actually under the control of the original owner. All that matters is that the original owner has claimed it is stolen and wants it back, and the current user has so far refused to provide any information about the person who gave him access to it. This behavior tends to support the contention that the account was stolen, either by the current user or the person who gave it to him.