give him chance, i think this is genuine, im not sure mentrio also scam either, its to soon to judge, but im half sure RISE is,,
i will ask fflaguna to open slack channel, so investors and friends could gather
he started ico from 1st of aug, and you know it is a 9 days ico
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570693.msg15783846#msg15783846on 12th he still had the ico, he delayed delayed and delayed, he used this trick for 9th to 12th(he set countdown for ico ended on 9th, and reset countdown for many times) he is a fucking liar and bullshit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570693.msg15899170#msg15899170I am sorry for your 10 btc. He will be punished by GOD. You guys donate 50 btc for the tomb and coffin for his whole family. Sorry