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Re: OgNasty: "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself."
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OgNasty
on 20/08/2016, 18:59:46 UTC
His apology was still full of alleging to be the victim, denying any involvement, and saying he feels threatened, so obviously he isn't getting it yet.  Therefore I'd like answers to questions like...
You're continuing to accuse me of things I did not do and trying to hold me accountable for the actions of accounts I got no connection with.

You are connected with them.  You are literally paying them money to post lies and harass me.  How is this behavior ok with you?


Why didn't he try to send me a PM in the 18 days prior to him starting this thread and does he really think that is trying everything he could?
Because directly PMing you didn't have any results. When we talked over at slack, you didn't want to listen to me, I therfore tried bringing in theymos, in hopes you would at least listen to them.

How would you know it would have no results?  You stopped communicating with me right before all the harassment started.


Why did he become defensive and combative with me when learning that I was being harassed by someone on his payroll, instead of trying to resolve the situation?
Because you didn't make this sound like you wanted to talk about someone on my payroll, but rather were attacking me directly. At least you sounded like you intended to.

No, I repeatedly have said, "I want this harassment to stop" and since you are paying the person harassing me, I figured going to you to try and resolve the situation was not a bad option.  What I didn't expect was for the harassment to get stepped up, and for you to cut off all contact with me, leave me negative trust, and start this thread.


Why is he still paying TwitchySeal for posts he makes publicly harassing me?
Because they violated none of the rules of that campaign and I'm not going to kick them out of it over this.
Posts I see not fit for receiving a payment are being denied and not paid, which would include posts being considered as "harassment".

So you are going to continue paying a user to attack and harass me.  Awesome.



OK...


Why does it say female on his profile?
Why does it say 5y/o on yours?
My gender is no concern of this forum and I may set it as I like.

It says 5 years old because that is literally how old the account is.  While your gender is no concern, posing as a female on an internet message board is just another disturbing trend of your behavior.


Why is he still claiming to be backed into a corner when he's the one who made first contact?  I apologized for what I said, told him that it was not a threat, said I have no ill intentions towards him, and not to mention that he's the one who created this thread, and he's the one who put negative feedback on my profile first.  It certainly appears from my end that he's on the offensive and I'm apologetic, not the other way around.
Mainly because of the PMs you have been sending around, containing wrong statements and lies about myself.
You're also wrong, you had left me a negative feedback first.

I don't think I've told any lies about you, and I assume the PMs you're talking about me throwing around were ones in which I said I was considering managing signature campaigns.  Why what I am considering doing to help improve the forum threatens you, I will leave up to others to speculate on.

I will say that the highlighted red quote is nothing more than another confirmed lie from Lutpin.  See a trend yet?


Why create this thread, and then not participate in it when I ask questions?  Certainly this doesn't suport your, "I did everything remotely possible" claims.  I've taken the time to participate in your thread against my better judgement and respond to ridiculous claims from questionable accounts, why don't you show the same courtesy?
I'm here answering your "questions".

I appreciate you taking part in the discussion.  Communication is the only way we will see each other's perspective in this.


You've posted that this thread was in response to you seeing messages where I was considering, "dipping my toe in the signature campaign management market" - So do you think that bashing me publicly was a good response to reading I might become a competitor to you?  That seems to be an ongoing trend with you where you try to do everything you can to hurt competition, which I find disturbing.
It's the PM you wrote about me "extorting" other people and stating that I am an alt account to TwitchySeal and game-protect, which is obviously wrong.

You were extorting me.  You literally told me to remove the signature and when I refused, I was repeatedly attacked by members who were collecting money from you to do so.  Also, my question didn't have anything to do with extortion.  I asked why you felt that creating this thread to hurt my reputation was a good response to me considering entering the signature campaign management market.


I'd love to have an open conversation about this with you.  Since you love posting my PMs anyway, we might as well just hash it out in public.  If you'd prefer to discuss this in private so you don't have to answer the above questions publicly, I'm open to that as well.  Feel free to PM, email, Slack or IRC me.  I'm well aware you already have all that contact info.  You have nothing to fear from contacting me.  I have absolutely no interest in seeing anything bad happen to you whatsoever.  In fact, I'd still just like the harassment of me to stop, and I feel this thread full of random accounts constantly attacking me over how I maintain my trust list is just another method of harassment from you.
So you're again accusing me of having alt accounts and using them to harass you?

No, I'm accusing you of using this thread as the latest form of harassment against me.