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Re: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping
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excelerator
on 05/09/2016, 17:17:55 UTC
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@usao Agreed, I didn't expect them to make August, and it wouldn't surprise me if we get pushed into October like they originally told us and then moved the dates forward.  So I am not too concerned yet.  

When did they originally "tell us" they would push into October?  I haven't seen that on the website, rather it said August from the July 1st update.
      "Estimated delivery time: Starts from August and max delay is one month."
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/14.html

They "originally" said June/July on their March 30th announcement.
      "Mass produced A4 ASIC/Miners will be available in June/July 2016 based on pre-order sequence."
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/13.html

The original inference was clear - early pre-orders would start in June and pre-order sequence would have later orders shipping in July.

You find yourself hoping that perhaps they've already made them and are "burning them in" in a big data hall for QC but LTC hash rate shows nothing interesting happening.
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/assets/difficulty/litecoin-hash_rate.png?1472935868




Speaking of hash rates, would it be reasonable to expect the hash rate to increase say 10x? Coz the A4 will not only be spun up by the pre-orders here but by the partners and their farms as well I'd imagine.....

when I started mining LTC in Nov 2014 the GH for LTC was 1169gh right now the gh is at this moment 1585gh....so that is a 26.25% increase since then. This was just AS the Titans started to hit
the LTC fold. Thus for Innsilicon to beat that they would have to ship at least the same amount of KNC Titans (more or less) to do the same. Supposedly 5k of Titans were shipped. In reality
we think it was more like 3.5k of such Titans were made at the most. Likely a lot less then that if you look at my calcs below.

If you delve deeper then that raise in GH is equivalent to 1,386 Titans (check my figures)....So imho the LTC may go up 25% BUT  they will have to kick a lot of A4's or equiv data halls to do so into the world to make the same kinda dent ...again check my calcs but how it seems to me at this point in time.


Without knowing the number of A2s that were released during the same period of time, it's hard to allocate how much of the LTC hashrate was attributed to KNC Titan and the A2s.

We're relatively confident that there are no impending new chips from other manufacturers so any large increase in hashrate will be mostly A4s.  I'm assuming that big batch of KNC Titans released a few months ago are now online.

You need to make additional assumptions to get to a 25% increase for LTC with the release of the A4.  Being very generous, LTC is about 50% of the entire scrypt hashrate at this moment.  Sort on "Network Hashrate".
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/?sha256hr=9460.00&sha256p=2600.00&sha256pc=0.1000&sha256c=false&scrypthr=5000000.00&scryptp=17000.00&scryptpc=0.0830&scryptc=true&x11hr=34400.00&x11p=600.00&x11pc=0.1000&x11c=false&keccakhr=1000.00&keccakp=600.00&keccakpc=0.1000&keccakc=false&quarkhr=20000.00&quarkp=600.00&quarkpc=0.1000&quarkc=false&groestlhr=45.00&groestlp=825.00&groestlpc=0.1000&groestlc=false&blake256hr=11.20&blake256p=600.00&blake256pc=0.1000&blake256c=false&neoscrypthr=400.00&neoscryptp=400.00&neoscryptpc=0.1000&neoscryptc=false&lyra2rev2hr=30.00&lyra2rev2p=600.00&lyra2rev2pc=0.1000&lyra2rev2c=false&cryptonighthr=1950.00&cryptonightp=750.00&cryptonightpc=0.1000&cryptonightc=falseðashhr=108.00ðashp=600.00ðashpc=0.1000ðashc=false&e=CEX.io

So to increase the current hashrate of LTC by 25% from 1.92TH to 2.4TH, assume the same distribution across all other scrypt coins (50%/50%).

Therefore, to get a 25% increase in hashrate for LTC, you would need to increase the entire network hashrate by 2x of the new LTC hashrate which would be .48TH x 2 or .96 GH.

To summarize, Innosilicon would need to ship ~3400 units to increase the entire scrypt network hashrate by .96TH so 50% of that would go to LTC to increase the LTC hashrate overall by 25%.  Massive assumption because for the math to work out, all 3400 units would need to go online today.

Personally, I'd settle for a youtube video of just one full rig working, happily hashing away at 280MH, with a voice over talking about the most profitable miner in the world today.