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Board Bitcoin Discussion
Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already.
by
franky1
on 14/09/2016, 23:21:02 UTC
Hard forks are good.  Stop crying.  They allow two discrete paths to flourish and see which works best.  Too freaking bad if some of your juice gets stuck on the 'bad' chain.  On fork day, you've got equal action on both chains.  Make good decisions thereafter.  No harm, no foul.  

Let's do it NOW!!!!

Fork it already.
Hard forks only work when a majority of the community is willing to change over to whichever chain they agree to use; if they don't agree on using the same one then everyone just gets confused and it is more detrimental than beneficial if everyone is splintered across multiple chains.

If the miners and devs can reach a consensus then we can switch, but until then there isn't much that can be done.

To be clear, the issue is not consensus of miners and devs. The issue is consensus of all Bitcoin users, which includes miners and presumably also includes devs. But the stakeholders in a hard fork are much more diverse than simply miners and devs. Miners ought to be following users out of rational incentive to mine the most highly valued chain. Miners shouldn't be provoking a hard fork themselves -- this is seen by many as an attack on users (attempting to leverage hash power to force users to migrate networks).

and now you know why im sick of devs flatly refusing to even code anything for core (well luckily luke is/should be doing it)  and try their best to throw anything not core (many different implementations) off the bus (now it seems blockstream employee are trying to throw luke off the bus too). because that is a route to centralize users, by only having one implementation.. which then has a ripple effect of only one implementation for miners and merchants.

meaning devs becoming the controllers of consensus and everyone has to bow to their wishes