Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already.
as for the stuff about bip109. read it. maxwell was making blind assumptions,
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Nice straw man Greg. Where does it say that https://poolbeta.bitcoin.com/login is a "classic" mining pool? You have no idea what clients we are testing with on TEST NET.
Wait a second. I read the whole thread. Ver's answer is kinda bullshit. If you read the thread and look at his pool's blocks, he was flagging blocks as BIP 109 compatible. He was also mining on Bitcoin Classic's testnet. But he was really running BU. So he forked the testnet (he had the most hash power but was mining an invalid chain).
I would echo Greg here: What exactly was he testing?---That he could break everything by flagging support for BIP 109 but not enforcing its rules?
Oh, that's because he was running BU.
Now you see why BU flagging support for protocols it does not support is dangerous. But hey, if Classic/BU can break Classic testnet, why not put it on mainnet, right?Bitcoin Unlimited is presently my favorite implementation of Bitcoin, it has the most elegant solution to the scaling debate in my opinion. Solving it once and for all, it can be forever tweaked to be made more efficient but it should never be a problem like it is now if there was wider adoption of Bitcoin Unlimited. The blocksize limit should be determined by true supply and demand, not arbitrarily decided by a centralized technocratic elite.
At this point I suspect a controversial split will be the only way forward, keep in mind it only takes a very small minority of people to disagree to cause a split to happen in the first place. Which is definitely the case now, it is not unfair to think that some of these small blockist will simply never change their mind, and these two opposing ideologies can not exist on the same network since these differing visions also have very different road maps and projected outcomes for Bitcoin, which is why a split has most likely become inevitable.
You would be creating something that we've seen numerous times already, an altcoin. You can try to use pseudo-intellectual reasoning to justify that your split-off version is still Bitcoin, but it isn't. It's an altcoin per definition. Additionally, there have been quite some people telling you several times to fork-off already and re-brand yourself as whatever you want (to avoid general confusion that is detrimental to both sides). I actually think that what we will be creating will be something new, if it becomes the longest chain, it will simply be the continued evolution of Bitcoin. However these splits create a new type of "altcoin" I am referring to them as "genesis forks", since they contain the original genesis block by Satoshi and all of the same blocks up to the point of the split. Another term that I have seen being used is "spin off".
You are indeed correct in your recommendation Lauda to fork off, that is exactly what I think will happen soon. Though there is a chance that in the future you might regret not being more compromising on this issue.