Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already.
I have always argued using reason, so you are still building those strawmen I see Carlton. My predictions are holding true, just look at the chart I posted earlier on this thread. I have always said that this debate has primarily been about politics, to discuss the politics of the code we must also understand the code however.
I really just came back because I missed you guys.
You have always argued using a cleverly layed out mixture of reason... and every underhanded debating tactic in the book. This is the fundamental problem with your strategy.I really just came back because I missed you guys.
; because you're attempting to convince people of something that has no merit, you have no choice but to use manipulative tactics, because genuine reason would lead readers to believe that you're wrong.
Yet you are the one employing ad hominem.The above post is a classic example of your strategy: claiming that I'm misrepresenting your argument, then going on to agree with statements I make about your arguments (an attempt to irritate, presumably, so yeah, you're Mr. Reason on so many levels there).
It is accurate what you are saying about the "debating tactics" I deploy, however the objective is not to irritate. A Socratic dialogue has been known to irritate certain people however, this has happened throughout history.And then you try to conflate code with politics. The only politics in the Bitcoin source code is in the genesis block. So not one statement of yours above is founded in reason, entirely the opposite, and deliberately so. You might want to update the Carlton pscyh profile you've been referring to, lol
This is part of what I think is part of the problem, you are not acknowledging and therefore not accounting for the human elements in this system. You say that there is no politics in code, there are multiple implementations of the Bitcoin code, ask the question what code, and who decides? According to Wikipedia the simple definition of politics is: Quote from: Wikipedia
Politics is the process of making decisions applying to all members of each group. More narrowly, it refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Furthermore, politics is the study or practice of the distribution of power and resources within a given community (a usually hierarchically organized population) as well as the interrelationship(s) between communities.
You claim that there is no politics in Bitcoin, I think you are blatantly wrong in this point. Bitcoin relies on the game theory incentives of its human participants, there even is a voting mechanism where certain human beings have to make decisions about the future of the network, Bitcoins entire value and therefore security is predicated on its price, which comes from the believe of human beings again. Like I said before, Bitcoin is a cyborg and we are all a part of the machine and politics certainly does have a role to play within such a leviathan. If you do not acknowledge that or take it into account you are not seeing the whole picture.
So, if you're willing to discuss why you want to depose the present coding team for one of your choice, go ahead.
I have never claimed that was my objective and it is not. I think there should ideally be multiple viable competing development teams for Bitcoin, I am fine with Core contributing code to the protocol I just do not think they should be making all of the decisions, in this case I think they are wrong about restricting the blocksize limit.So go ahead, try and re-open that flank that closed up on you months ago. While the real Bitcoiners still have a pulse, you've got no chance.
I remember we have debated before who the "real" bitcoiners really are, since last time I checked Satoshi did support on chain scaling and this ideology of small blockism is actually a relatively new development. Not that I really care who you think the real Bitcoiners are, its just from my perspective it has a touch of irony.The primary reason for my return has been to discuss and promote the idea of splitting the chain intentionally as a minority. I am certain that this will happen, it is one of the main reasons I am still holding the ratio of Bitcoin to altcoins that I am today, since I am very interested in the eventual genesis forks that will spawn from Bitcoin itself.