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Board Politics & Society
Re: Social security is the govs way of saying you are too stupid to save your own $$
by
FirstAscent
on 21/03/2013, 18:04:33 UTC
Now, regarding the forcing, auto insurance is forced as well. A good foundation for discussion would be why insurance is forced in the first place.

A better foundation would be discussing why anything is forced. If it's important and necessary, people will do it themselves. And if they do not, the consequences should be on them, not the rest of us.

Old people on the street are consequences on society, not just the individual.
I suppose they would block up traffic. Well, that's what street cleaning services are for.

You say the consequences should be on them. Note your use of the word 'should'. That word pretty much sounds like a demand. A demand is pretty much the suggestion of force. Now we're back to square one. Forcing. You seem to be in agreement with me actually. In order to put the burden on them, we should force them to pay over their lifetime.

Note your use of the phrase "pretty much." That means "not exactly."

In fact, it's actually the opposite. I refuse to force others to accept the burden. That places the burden on the people who failed to plan by default. No force needed. All is actually needed is to refuse force.

You were doing so well with regard to comprehension. Now you're regressing. Go back and reread my post(s).

I understood what you were saying perfectly. You're just wrong.

Refusing to pay for someone else's retirement is not the same as using force against them.

Please remember that, as an insurance/Ponzi scheme, one's SSI is not paid for with one's own money. It's paid for with other people's money, which is taken from them by force. If it were my own money coming back to me, that would make it a savings account.

If we stop using force, that will shift the burden back to the retirees.

Force aside, let's review how insurance works: other people's misfortune is paid for by all insurance subscribers. Do you understand that? I assume you do. If you don't, go study the principles of insurance.

Once you've done that, we can move on to force. As you know, buying automobile insurance is forced. I know you disagree with that concept, but it's reality. Can you think of other ways in which society forces things? I think you can. Please enumerate some.