I respect that and just to be clear I wasn't meaning you about emotion and wanting to just pump etc.  I got into vrc a few months ago and was lucky to sell some at 17000 Satoshi.  I typically range trade because the spreads are so high it's crazy profitable for those who can be patient with certain trades.  I understand critiquing ICOs.  Maybe Verium shouldn't have been an ICO..idk.  I know that one of Vericoin's struggles is having no marketing.  So it becomes a catch 22.  If there is zero hype, there is unfortunately much less chance of aspects of the technology being properly recognized for issues they solve.  Ideally the hype comes from users but you have to market to even have a chance to eventually have a user base.  I encourage people to do their own research and to trade without emotion.  I want people to invest in VeriCoin because I think it has some unique and brilliant (and necessary) components to the future of decentralized money, and awkwardly enough it takes investments and a growing market cap to be on people's radar. But I highly discourage anyone from investing more than a small amount.  At this stage it's essentially priced like a penny stock.  As much as I like the specifics, the market cap is what it is.  If the price goes to zero tomorrow I would of course lose money, wish the devs well in life, and go on investing and staying diversified.  For now the technology is still being developed and while there are low priced coins they are not dead at all from a development side.