Segwit and Lightning both transact Bitcoins, on the Bitcoin network.
You're relying on your audience being too stupid or too lazy to check this for themselves. That's not a very good strategy, anyone can check for themselves, and confirm you're talking nonsense.
I checked and Carlton Banks is a paid Blockstream shill
This pretty much explains why is an asshole like the whole bunch of those idiots at Blockstream trying to own bitcoin via the liquid bullshitery.