You're posting in a thread calld "SegWit and LN are altcoins", and you've tried already (and abandoned) to establish Segwit is an altcoin, when it isn't any kind of separate coin at all.
i didnt try to establish segwit as an altcoin
agreed LN in its blockstream concept is an alt.
segwit however is within bitcoin..
@Mods: remove Franky's ability to edit his posts, or keep a copy of every edit. I'd suggest doing the same for the other known Bitcoin trolls trying to sabotage the project