many miners go to zcash, from the standpoint of mining vrt looks good, but price ... and a view of the future looks badly oh badly

Zcash does look interesting. I'm waiting for it to settle before I do anything with it. The price started around 1.5 btc and now it's around .2 btc . The creator of vertcoin made that .
Poramin didn't make Zcash (or Zcoin). His former professor at Johns Hopkins, Matthew Green, is an author on both of the papers describing these protocols (
http://zerocoin.org/media/pdf/ZerocoinOakland.pdf and
http://zerocash-project.org/media/pdf/zerocash-extended-20140518.pdf ), Poramin Insom is not. The creator of vertcoin (Poramin) implemented zerocoin, first in a closed source scam called Zerovert, and now later in a hugely instamined coin called Zcoin. He is unaffiliated with Zcash (which is also scammy) afaik.