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Re: [ANN][ICO] Incent: The first universal, merchant-backed loyalty platform
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NASdaq
on 17/11/2016, 10:49:57 UTC
How concerned are the Incent organisers (if at all) in the number of projects abandoned by Sasha so far? Coinomat, CryptoCard, CryptoIndex etc etc ... all look to be dead with very little communication on what's going on with them. Other coinomat projects like NEXT & NEXTBOND were basically orphaned and left to guys like Cassius to clean up the mess and apologise for the appalling behaviour and neglect of Sasha.

WAVES might be looking good today, but what happens if Sasha & Co. move on to greener pastures and abandon WAVES like they have with so many past assets and businesses? Do you have a plan B? I see this as a serious risk to Incent. Why not consider moving to another platform, maybe SuperNET.

This might not seem very likely to some here (i.e WAVES being abandoned for another project), but those who followed Sasha on nxtforum.or would be well aware of how things have gone for investors and users of these past projects. Aren't you guys concerned at Sasha's neglect of his past investors and users?

First time I'm hearing of this... proof?

Everyone needs to investigate for themselves to get the full picture , but lets take CryptoIndex as an example of Sasha's behaviour.

This is the asset on NXT - https://www.mynxt.info/asset/13634675574519917918
Here is the nxtforum.org thread - https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/(pre-ann)-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/
Here is the website - http://cryptoindex.io/ (from asset description) or http://coinoindex.com/ (from ANN thread)

It'll take you a few minutes to see this asset is dead, and the ANN thread offers no explanation, just abandoned. A little more investigation reveals the same or similar for the other assets ... DEAD.

Sasha raised 100's of thousands from a number of Coinomat based assets, then abandoned them in favour of WAVES which raised 10's of millions. What's to say he doesn't abandon WAVES for a project in the 100's of millions. If this idea seems ridiculous (Sasha abandoning WAVES for something bigger/better), then try and explain why a promising project like Incent seems perfectly content to work with Sasha given his past behaviour? Either Incent guys don't realise all these past projects have been abandoned (which would be diabolical negligence in itself), or they do know, but are using WAVES anyway. The Crypto community obviously tolerates a lot more shonky behaviour.

Maybe others know what's going on with all Sasha's past coinomat based assets and businesses, (if so please share), but on the surface it looks like a collective delusion where everyone is happy to ignore reality. A 30M USD was surely impressive, but Sasha's resume isn't.

I strongly disagree with this analysis too.
Anyone familiar with the Nxt ecosystem and economy will be aware of the factors in play here, and anyone who has worked with Sasha will know that he is not someone motivated simply by money.
These projects will be moved over to Waves in due course.

Thanks for the reply Cassius, but what communication from Sasha gives you this confidence? If it exists, where is it? Wouldn't the obvious place to post such assurances about an asset like CryptoIndex be on the ANN thread and the website? Neither has any communication explaining the situation, nothing from Sasha for many months, (website looks dead).

Your loyalty to Sasha is admirable up to a point, but you can't polish a turd Cassius, and if you try you'll just get shit all over Incent. Sasha has behaved terribly to ordinary investors, maybe insiders get more information, but I've seen practically nothing. Some mention of Coinomat business being sold, or turned into a 'gateway', but after so many months the lack of detail is pathetic. Other assets like CryptoCard & CryptoIndex look dead completely.

If someone can show public statements confirming the status of these coinomat assets I'll be very relieved.

Sasha's last post about CryptoIndex  from March 1st - nothing in the last 7 months

I see no action around your index, despite alts are on the run.
You mentioned large investors once. Is there any promo at least?
Current NXT situation holds me back a little
So I solve this thing first
After the dust settles (which will happen quite soon) I'll get down to index in a really big way.
And yes there's promotion now.