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Re: [News]WHY AGAINST SEGWIT AND CORE? Mining investor gives his answer
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jbreher
on 24/11/2016, 01:35:28 UTC
Leaving aside the fact that cherry-picking some random rich dude and attributing an entire movement to that person is ludicrous...
Random rich dude? Looks like someone has been living inside a cave during the last two quarters.

Not at all. Last two quarters? I was around when Ver's early advocacy made a huge impact on Bitcoin adoption. BTAIM, my point is that singling out a single individual out of a large group that agree on one point, and ascribing one statement that that individual made to the group as a whole, is ludicrous.

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You seem to be stating that you view Ver's verbal statement of "difficult to support segwit" as synonymous with "[primarily Roger Ver and ViaBTC have been] fighting for blocking scaling and Segwit and pro a fork." This says more about you than it does of Ver.
False. Do your research regarding this problem, i.e. stop requiring spoon-feeding. I've already said the statement is wrong and it should be "blocking scaling via Segwit".

You are the one with the outlandish claim. Proving it is on you. So let us substitute the text you assert you meant then:

You seem to be stating that you view Ver's verbal statement of "difficult to support segwit" as synonymous with "[primarily Roger Ver and ViaBTC have been] fighting for blocking scaling via Segwit and pro a fork."

Nope - I'm not seeing how that is any closer to being synonymous. It still says more about you than it does of Ver.

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No. You (core, et al) just implement emergent maxblocksize and continue promoting/preaching what you are already doing. It causes no harm but helps move forward (at least a bit).
Nobody in their right mind is going to implement something that effectively has no benefits in contrast to the solution on hand.

Exactly. Now do you see how ludicrous your suggestion seems to someone who supports scaling via emergent consensus of maxblocksize?

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Now see, that is what is known as an opinion.
Nope. Facts.

No. "Mainstream people should not be trying to decide technical limits though" is not a statement of fact. It is dogma.

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Random people that know nothing about what a system can or can not handle should not be messing around with it.

Except we are not speaking of random people. We are speaking of emergent consensus of the very people who have something at stake. The exact set of interests who have invested in the the Bitcoin network and technology. As opposed to a handful of devs who may or may not have anything at stake.

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Further, it is not a technical limit.
Surely it's an economical limit that my node can only run X amount of validation in Y amount of time. Roll Eyes

1MB maxblocksize is an economical limit only because it is being imposed upon the system.