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Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments
by
tonych
on 08/12/2016, 18:41:03 UTC
Track the linking progress at http://transition.byteball.org

Some people tried to send microtransactions from exchange wallets.  These addresses have been deleted:

1MFXYK1XucKFfhPhW9HDHD3vsM9BKey4qm poloniex
3ALHU1TB4rS6t23j6nv61bzSyKKzgmSAZX bitstamp
1DEcTtkrbdXxS1wbrMvzub5X4VpByYmAwo poloniex

Tony, please check 13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv
https://blockchain.info/address/13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv

With this huge activity it seems to be an exchange wallet as well!

I also remember seeing this address earlier today linked to two different byteball addresses, the bot probably kept the first after it updated ... I was wondering if it would be fair to blacklist addresses that try to link to different byteball accounts, I mean can there be any valid case for someone to try that unless they want to cheat the system (or maybe they were trying to find bugs Smiley)?

Edit: Just thought of a case: I link my address to a first account, I then destroy this account and link the same address to a new account. So does the linking disappear when a byteball account is destroyed?

I also remember some discussion about detecting exchanges addresses, so what follows might have been addressed before:

How is this detection done? Isn't there a risk that someone links an exchange address on Decmeber 24 23:59:59 UTC and gets included in the snapshot? Meaning would it be costly to try and detect exchange addresses before adding them (and removing them afterwards, as it seems to be done for now)?

I also assume that an address that used a signed message can't be an exchange address, or am I mistaken? Exchanges staff might control private keys of addresses at some extent, so I think I'm mistaken Smiley (well technically I was for a second Smiley).

I was wondering how micro could the micropayment be, some exchanges charge 0.0001 or 0.0002 (maybe others less) as a fee for a withdrawal, is it possible to make the micropyament less than that (or at least less that the minimum they authorize to be withdrawed)?

Already watching this address.  Looks like it is Bittrex hot wallet but I'm not sure https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/015a002330a8624a?from_address=13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv.
If somebody did withdrawals from Bittrex and can find this address in history, please confirm.

Currently, exchanges are detected by the number of outputs.  Normal transactions should have 2 outputs: the micropayment and the the change.  Exchanges usually aggregate many withdrawals into single transaction and they have more than 2 outputs.  See the history of the above addresses.  However this detection is not bullet proof.

If you link the same Bitcoin address to another Byteball address, the old link is currently removed.  We could blacklist such Bitcoin addresses altogether (i.e. if different Byteball addresses try to link to them) but this might negatively affect blockchain.info users who have constant address by default as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong).

Further lowering of micropayment amount is risky because it opens an attack vector: an attacker might see your microtransaction on the blockchain and repeat it exactly from his address (i.e. send the same amount to the same our address) trying to link his address and trick you to send all your bitcoins to his address.  Most users will notice, and the attacker just loses his bitcoins, but if the amounts are too small, the attack might pay off.

Yes, signed message cannot be abused easily.