That was a 30-minute interview, and finally, I was able to listen to it.

It seems to really attempt to shed light on distinguishing aspects of bitcoin as compared with other assertions about blockchains being "Bitcoin 2.0"... and in essence, asserting that the vast majority of the other attempts at selling themselves as Bitcoin 2.0 are scams, even though a person could get lucky (approximately 2% of the time) and enter into a pump into some other blockchain" at the right moment.. but then, in most of those cases in which you get lucky, you better hope that you can get out of the coin before you get scammed too badly (and some of them even have difficult exit strategies).