House and bookie will win in the long term when gamblers bet a lot, if only a few bets, house and bookies may lose. But long term they earn margins
Yes I know. I wasn't saying that. But normally when people say the house always wins, they mean that they win and the player loses in the long term.
What I was saying is that, although that is true for casino, I don't think it's true for sports betting. Yes the house will always win, but the player can also win in the long term. Most of them will not, but that's because of lack of skill I think, and not entirely because of the house.