ok after some research thru the forums
I installed cgminer into a new folder and I running it seperate than my BTC one, not sure why but requires a tiny space so

added the 2 commands to the .bat file


ran cgminer for a few minutes and got my thread concurrency from the .bin file name

now coinotron is reporting ~560KH/s much greater than 80KH/s

tweaking my gpu and memory speeds and now my rig is using 4gbs of system ram