Tone Vays and Fluffy cannot be simply ignored and labeled as trolls.
Too late, that ship has already sailed. I think they are both very open about being contrarian trolls and would take offensive to you suggesting otherwise.

They wear it as a badge of honor like the BU guys

I have not taken the time to listen yet but from what has been reported they/fluffy purposely got a lot of the facts wrong and tone was totally uneducated on our features like the DGBB funding. Tone is a BTC maximalist and his shtick is trolling all the alts, he's harmless.
I'm sure somebody will debunk all of it line by line at some point. It has already mostly been done in slack, youtube and on reddit. Sounds like Fluffy is reading from the same old script that myself and others have debunked long long ago.
Tao may be putting something together, I don't have time right now and the next week or so is going to be totally crazy for a lot of us.
I've linked one of my old post debunking monero's old scripts for whoever wants to do a proper line by line response to the FUD.
November 19, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
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