Quote from: phoenix rises on February 09, 2017, 12:43:07 AM

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on February 08, 2017, 11:19:48 PM

Quote from: phoenix rises on February 08, 2017, 10:10:02 PM

Quote from: smoothie on February 08, 2017, 10:04:06 PM

There is no lens of which I look through.

It is the reality of the situation.

Thanks for letting me know you have the copyright on 'reality', I will try not to infringe upon it Wink

So are you saying that you disagree with Smoothie's version of "reality?"

Did Jaxx not announce Monero support back in October 2016 and claim it would be done in November?

After that deadline was missed, did Jaxx not continue to insist that integration was nearly complete and release was imminent?

Which of the above statements are you saying is untrue?

OK, I am done with this pussyfooting crap ...

Nope, I am saying that this is not the whole story, lacks context and is basically a 'hit piece' on Jaxx that avoids mentioning the fact that Fluffy, who everyone expected to get it right (so he didn't have to announce anything, it was simply assumed it would be done right), royally fucked it up too and happened to be advising them. And is still advertising the site as 'The Simplest way to use Monero' with a warning banner that may or may not appear in your browser (just clicked there now and it did not), and arguably caused more short term damage to Monero's credibility than Jaxx did, and is still accepting new deposits from people, some of whom end up over on reddit asking for help to access their Monero from the site that is still borked. He has subsequently admitted his mistake, as have Jaxx, and I am saying 'Drop it, move on, the people that needed to learn have learnt and nobody needs to be crucified here'. Get it ??

And this crap about Jaxx bringing it on themselves - sure, they fked up with that reddit converstaion when they struggled at the start, but it is clear that people more involved than you or I were able to move past this and continue assisting, yet most people here still cant see past that initial interaction and use it as a blinkered excuse to vent. Thank god you do not play a more senior role in this project or your grudges would bring it to its knees.

So you poked me enough to speak out for you. Well done, how courageous ... I hope you are happy now. Do you feel like you won something?

@ DaveyJones ... they paused the integration AFTER RingCT, when the issues unforeseen by them and fluffy, came to light ... MyMonero is still acting like it's the go-to place to use monero ... where is the balance in peoples sight here?

Apologies to fluffy here, but I think it is wrong for certain members of the community to be shouting at someone outside whilst not looking inside too, and the accusation that I am the one with blinkers on here is ridiculous. People are simply too weak to speak about the other side of the story and risk offending you after all you have done, and continue to do. Personally, i think you have enough self-awareness and a thick enough skin to deal with it, and value truth, and Monero's future, over unspoken ass-kissing.

If we are not able to cast critical eyes inwards aswell as outwards there is no hope. Monero deserves better than that.

Im critical as can be, still i blame it all to the first negative attitude they BROUGHT ONTO THEM SELF BY IDIOTIC BLAMING, im pretty sure if they just would have come out back in November and said... hey community we need help we have problems here and there and would appreciate help.... that the whole attitude from the community would have been different. What goes around, comes around or quid pro quo. And for MyMonero i don't see anyone advertising it as the go-to place, Fluffy himself said that it only should be used for spare-money + even though somehow difficult, it is possible to open the MyMonero seed in your own wallet over CLI or GUI