Post
Topic
Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave
by
induktor
on 12/02/2017, 17:14:14 UTC
I dont know why ppl connect 2 or more psu`s.

Problem is equalizing currents, that always destroy one of psu. Faster or slower but always do this.

Regards
Hello
Not exactly
I Build a farm for a client with 64 machines in the litecoin era, using 2 bridged PSUs (sentey 850W SS series (superflower design)) and worked perfectly, not 1 of the power suppies failed nor the GPUs after two years, we sold all by now (I still have like 15 of those power supply, bought in 2013, and stil works perfectly.

there are several secrets for this:

1) the power supply must be identical (brand, model and power rating and 80+ rating).
2) you need an add2psu gadget (i made my own, which is basically a reed relay, when it senses 5V it turns the second PSU on)
3) you need dual conversion PSUs (usually found only on PSUs above 900W or so) what i mean is PSUs that converts the entire energy into 12V single rail, and then uses VRM to generate 5V and 3.3V, the cheaper PSUs converts using different taps in the transformer for each voltage, that ones dones not work, because the second psu (which does not power the motherboard, only the GPUs) had the +5V not loaded, and since those cheap PSUs regulates over the 5V line, and not on the 12V line like the dual conversion models,  the voltage keeps going up and down all the time, eventually fucking something up or the PSU itself.
So the most importan factor DUAL CONVERSION PSUs is a MUST. they are easy to spot , if you see a vertical VRM board with big coils, then it's dual conversion and it is good for dual PSU usage.
4) and finally, the first PSU MUST power the motherboard and ALL OF THE RISERS, this is extremely important, because the risers voltage shares the line with the PCI-Express bus and if there is a tiny litte difference in voltage all hell break loose.

the second PSU powers the 6 and 8 Pin conectors on the GPU (i also power the first GPU with the first power supply) to balance the consumption between the GPUs, you have to measure current with a clamp meter that can read DC AMPERES (not many can do that, i have the APPA A18+ clamp meter that can read DC AMPERES perfectly) so measuring you know how much each psu is being loaded.

if you need any specific data ask me, i will be glad to help.
cheers
indkt.



we are talking apples and oranges.

your bridge method is one of many ways to use multiple psus on a rig. as you describe it that will work.

Other methods are 1 small psu like this for the mobo


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151113&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-113-_-Product


and a beast like this  for riser gpus


http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-39Y7415-IBM-BLADECENTER-H-2980-WATT-POWER-MODULE-39Y7414-/201803375432?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966135.0


two small psus plus the beast  and you can run 12 gpus

Holy crap!, i want that PSU!!, awesome!, too bad it is impossible to find it here in south america.

same applies, using this beast as second PSU, will work as well, as long as all the risers are powered by the primary PSU (the one that powers the motherboard) and... the turn on must be simultaneous, up to the milisecond range, that's why i always use two identical PSUs, you can test it with a digital storage oscilloscope (any cheap one will do) to see the startup time.

actually... with one psu like that, you can directly design the power on circuitry of the motherboard, and power the entire rig with that IBM blade beast.

all you need is a small SMPS to power +5VSB, +5V and +3.3, and a 4 relays (well you can do it with powermosfets too if you wanna work a little more jeje) to turn on all the rails, if I manage to get one of those i will do it, just for the fun of it, also the efficiency of that psu is probably better than 80+ platinum, serious stuff! so it's a win win.

thanks for the data, i didn't knew that psu at all.
indkt