If it isn't voluntary, how is it that you can choose your own or even to dismiss it? State religion is not voluntary.

Around 10% of Amish leave their communities to explore the world at large, yet most return.

Meanwhile, sailing families leave behind state-dominated lives for a much more family/community-oriented existence. Their children are generally well adapted and knowledgeable.

In my view, agreeing with you, it is the state that destroys. So what is it about these faith-based communities that is different? What similarities do they have with nomadic sailing travelers? Most of all, how do they maintain structure without becoming a destructive state?


Isn't God unnecessary? If human men can at some point in their lives learn how to handle themselves, is it not expected that human women can also learn to understand their behavior needs to be restrained, if not on their own then by a man? Then is it possible the suggested mind control and coercion are the cause of trouble instead of the tools that control? Hasn't eradication of religion been attempted?

One point to ponder: if a man cannot or has not submitted to an authority, how is he to understand his wife's situation and treat her properly?