Quote from: franky1 on February 16, 2017, 02:03:27 PM

yes i should be attacking DCG.. but its blockstream that has the biggest tie to bitcoin code changes (followed by BTCC advocating those changes)
they are the front line of the corporate centralist agenda

You still dont get it.

Even if this DCG would hypothetically go away this night, what would change tomorrow? Nothing.

The flaw was caused by satoshi, he designed a flawed system, and failed to account for the possible attack vectors and flaws that might arise in the future.

While I don't blame him, he still did us a great favor by inventing BTC, we should also not make him an idol.

He was not perfect, and either we resolve the flaws in Bitcoin, or Bitcoin will die slowly, and that would be a very sad thing.

Don't get me wrong ,I want Bitcoin to succeed. But do others want Bitcoin to succeed as well?

Quote from: jbreher on February 16, 2017, 02:48:32 PM

While that would be a good idea, that is unfortunately the way Bitcoin currently operates. Working now, and ofr the foreseeable future. There seems to be no fatal flaw in this.

For now, but a disease left untreated, might cause complications later on, metaphorically.

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Not exactly. If you don't run a node, you are incapable of making trustless transactions on the blockchain. It is not altruism that causes one to run a node, it is enlightened self-interest.

Ah c'mon that is a weak argument that I have heard a million times.

Look, nobody cares about trustlessness, other than the VIP bitcoiners who have upwards of 10,000BTC.

Most folks just want a quick and easy way to send money.

If people would really care about trustlessness, then there would exist no banks today Grin

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Expensive servers? Don't be ridiculous. I run a full node on a computer I bought years ago for under 0.3 BTC ($300). While using that computer for other tasks as well. Sure, at some point in the future I may need to upgrade. But 0.3 BTC is not an inordinate amount to expect someone to spend to be a first-class member of the network.

Just a reminder that Bitcoin adoption is currently growing in 3rd world countries, not 1st world.

For some reason 1st worlder are perfectly happy with WU, Paypal and their banks.

And in the 3rld world, your daily wage might be only 2$. So keep that in mind.