to add to toknormals point.
trainscarswreck is the one not defining the proper concepts
value=price
value=desire/need
are 2 different things
I am not conflating anything. I am sorting out the problems and misunderstanding for the community. Allow my and toknormals dialogue to unfold. It take a bit to get on the same page. But I already did it with Adam Back (it only took a few minutes but slack is a better medium).