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Board Gambling
Re: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game
by
RHavar
on 07/03/2017, 18:58:49 UTC
1) How long will the current site be available for/when will the new site be released?
I'm expecting it'll be around for at least 2 or 3 more months. I'm in no rush to release the new version, and want to make sure everyone is totally happy with it, before I do any sort of switch over. You should be able to get an idea of the blockers by following this: https://github.com/bustabit/bustabit-client/milestone/1   (but keep in mind as time and testing progresses more issues will definitely be added)

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2) I still don't understand how the pvp will work?  Don't you need "oblivious" players to keep playing or it's just negative ev if one guy is playing all by himself...?

You don't need to be playing against oblivious players, just be better than the other players currently playing. If everyone is the same level, they'll probably bleed money slowly (at a dynamic 0-1% house edge, like bustabit currently has).  It's very much like poker when you think about it. If you're a lot better than someone, you can overcome the rake and take advantage of them. But if they're playing nash or you're the same level, you'll just slowly bleed.

Also I agree with Dooglus about the lucky players attracting attention, not the skillful ones. For instance, I know you've put a lot of work in your bot (which seems to be doing a great job!), and it's up 2 BTC. However, that's nothing compared to the 3 players we have (gohard, LosDeXibalbaMC, dudaxmaimons) who are all >200 BTC in net profit from good luck (most of them have had an EV of ~-0.5 to ~-0.8%)!

I honestly think this is a huge risk factor for the site.

I agree. I'm thinking the biggest risk is that because bustabit is a game that *allows* skilled players to make a profit (unlike most other sites) it attracts gambles who trick themselves into believing they're playing skillfully, but actually just playing lucky. With a split, it'll be a lot me a lot more apparent.

Anyway, I have no plan of rushing through changes. And and maintaining a branch that puts the odds identical to how they are now (with bonuses).

I like to think I have a very open mind, and a bad intuition about these sort of things. So I'm more than happy to revert back to the original scheme/bonuses if that's what's best for my players