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Board Tokens (Altcoins)
Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Digital Assets Management Platform
by
MoveCrypto
on 10/03/2017, 04:07:06 UTC
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My take is that with ICN, you have to report dividends to the government and pay taxes on them. But with ICNX, you do not have to pay taxes on them until you sell them.

Good joke man for me. Where those ICNs are rigged to one person Smiley ? Or where on ETH network any token have owner ?
As you see is IMPOSSIBLE to tax you directly. In EU that works that way you have to sell crypto to fiat make bank transfer and then you report income and pay tax. ICN like ICNX are same in matter of taxation till you sell your dividend for ETH for fiat USD/Euro you have earned 0.
Unrealized profit is not real profit in crypto until you will find fiat buyer you can not say you earned anything.
ICNX and ICN are same in taxation - in my country gains come when you capitalize in fiat profit not by just keeping it.

In stock market people are avoiding keeping cash on account at end of fiscal year they buy stock report 0 income then they sell next day to keep fiat in broker account until you move money in fiat out of stock market you have 0 to pay. This is good tactic in tax dodging.
Besides of that in EU there are countries where you have 0% capital gains Tongue like Estonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gains_tax

But every country is different while your ICN on your ETH wallet are not bound to anyone - but I don't stop you for paying if you really want.


That doesn't fly. I am morally opposed to any taxation, but leagaly speaking, you have to pay taxes on any gains you make, fiat or otherwise. For example if you trade bitcoin for ethereum, you must pay taxes on any gains you made from that trade.

Uh no you don't pay taxes until a profit is realized.

It depends on the jurisdiction and the type of profit we are talking about.  In a lot of places like US or Slovenia, there is a distinction between capital gains and income.  Making a profit from trading is often considered capital gains.  Making a profit from doing a service, mining, or receiving interest on a loan is often considered income.

A lot of jurisdictions might consider a crypto dividend to be similar to mining, meaning it would be taxed as income based on the fiat exchange rate at the time it was received.  

But what if the dividend is in the form of an altcoin that has no direct fiat exchange rate?  Or what if the "dividend" is like Bitshares where they burn a portion of the supply to give the same effect as sending a dividend?

It's still a bit unregulated, I haven't seen any regulators even mention a crypto dividend yet.