You idiots are little children trying to play an adult game. Forget ethics for a minute; do you think it's legal to just steal from someone because they may have scammed someone else? Not in the US it isn't, and I'm betting that's true for most countries where theft is against the law. What's the problem here, again?
God this community is so full of dishonesty, it's unreal.
Do YOU also think it is legal for dzeros to HACK into the admins account here in bitcointalk and try to gain access to the admins account on the dice site as well ?
Do YOU also think it is legal for dzeros to try extort money from the admin so he could get access back to the account.
Do YOU think it is legal for dzeros to extort money from the admin and threaten to post all the PM's publicly on this forum.
Do YOU think it is legal for dzeros to delete posts/pms from the admins account ?
No dzeros, i do not think you should get a free pass.
You dont get away with:"sorry i hackded you account and try extort you and also sorry i try to hack into you casino to steal money i is very sorry now give back my money"
It doesnt work that way.
Does this mean he should loose all his bitcoin in the account ? No, i dont think so, but giving him a clean pass would not be right either.
1. There's a difference between hacking and phishing. While both actions are wrong I admit, I again want to reitterate I never had any intention to damage alex nor his investors finances or casino reputation.
2. That sentence makes no sense and is in no correlation with this thread
3/4. You think deleting PMs and "threatening" is worth $45000?
You sound just like Alex, I'm not laying any accusations though if it is I want to state that your justification for freezing $45000 are a little ridiculous and very improportionate, I'm sorry, because you never faced any reputation problems nor face any financial damage to yourself or your casino, and again, my intentions were never there to do either of these things or else I easily could have.
I have already proposed where some of the Bitcoin will be going, and offered compensation to any damage to Alex for any damage done despite it being pretty clear none was done (despite emotional damage from what it seems?)
What's your opinion on how we should proceed with those funds (38BTC). We can confiscate them (and add them to investors bankroll, I do not need his money) as he clearly broke our rules and we are able to do this. However considering that we didn't lose any money to him that's a bit harsh, still, I'm not sure whether we should release or confiscate it as I have concerns about how legit those funds are.
-Send it to one of the lost bitcoins wallets.You don't wanna fund charities and you will never be able to find out people who he has scammed.Better if the bitcoins belong to no one.
dooglus has spoken.
glad we got this resolved.....
How ? Regardless of his winnings or whatever,he is a fraud.He is a scammer who ripped people off their money.Do you guys even have fuckin ethics for christ sakes ? Let that criminal rot in the jail cell.
@dodgedice,take an action.Contact the authorities and make sure he doesn't get access to a computer in his life ever again.
Like I said I'm happy to come to an agreement with alex to compensate for any damage I caused, though as far as I am aware, I caused none. Nor was I able to fulfill the intentions I originally had, in theory, what I had done meant nothing to alex and it's more about the fact that I was able to gain access to his BCT account more than anything, in my eyes.
You don't belong here.Karma has stricken you back,now suffer for it.@Alex,please put him behind the bars with all the proofs you have.
I don't even know why I am bothering replying to your ridiculous post. Karma for what? For running investor based games that literally said in very clear text that "you may not get your money back?"
I'm pretty sure scam/fraud are forms of deception, I never deceived anyone in any of my scams, as I made the risks of loss very, very clear. Even if you were to take this to law enforcement in any country (which I have invited many to do so in the past 2 years) I wouldn't expect an outcome that would please you. Are the schemes unethical? Sure, some people don't read the tos and therefor they're naive and stupid, though how can I help that?
Call me a scammer and thief all you want, but at the end of the day I believe that this isn't the truth as in investor based games, there are winners and there are losers, and it is very clear that this is the case before, during, and after the program has operated
As I've stated, I am willing to compensate those who participated, purely for the sake of setting things "right". Though I never guaranteed anything and I stared all risks in every single program, so loss should have been expected if you participated in the program. As I said, there are winners and there are losers in these games.