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Re: it is Core, not Bitman blocking segwit
by
AgentofCoin
on 09/04/2017, 06:27:48 UTC
Ext Blocks only recently patched it to prevent ASICBoost use, and since then, Jihan will
no longer support that Ext Block proposal.
Very interesting...  do you have a source?
He does, it's a sphere, it's made of glass, it's on the floor of his toilet and it has wet brown stains on it.
not sure i get the joke.
But seriously, AgentofCoin...regardless of the fact that this is a distraction from the scaling debate,
you made an interesting/important claim here about Jihan...so I would like to know where you
got that from.  Surely, you didn't just make this up?
He can't answer you, AgentofCoin likes to use his secret crystal ball instead of facts.

My crystal ball is saying that Alex.BTC will need to get a real job soon because
his shill work isn't paying the bills. Soon he is going to have to scam the members
in the Digital Good section.

Hey Alex.BTC make sure you address my points in my most recent response since
you are accustomed to taking snippets that never address the actual issues.
Thanks buddy. Looking forward to reading your word salad and tap dancing later. Smiley

1) I don't necessarily share Alex's conclusion you're a "paid shill"
although you are clearly biased in your politics as evidenced
by your signature (nothing necessarily wrong with that).

2) But I also would like to say that I agree with Alex that
your position on HK is just word play... Lets keep it real here.
You don't think Greg and Adam talk to each other almost
every day?  Of course, they acted as a united front, made,
and broke the agreement.  The fact that it was a non-binding
agreement is irrelevant to demonstrating their lack of compromise
and obstructionism.  Please stop making excuses for this; it
just makes you look bad.  Pick your battles.

3) Also, you didn't answer my question about where you came
up with this claim about Jihan back peddling on Extensionblocks.
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.  I hope you didn't
just make up a lie, that would make you look really bad.
 

1) When I give my opinions and comments I try to be fair, but I have made it public
that I support a decentralized validator node network at the expense of on-chain
scaling now. I think in a few more years we can go to 3MB on-chain. If I come off
as biased, I will admit that in that specific issue at the time, if you wish, I am not
unreasonable. I can not be truly full non biased, that would not be human. On
most issues I try to be unbiased, but on issues like blocksize debate, that is not
possible since that is about two polar opposite ideologies.

2) Jonald, as for the HK agreement, I am not making an excuse. You need to
understand that from my perspective, the agreement was induced and not how we
conduct ourselves in this community. Individual Core members can not go and meet
with other people to form an agreement on future implementations. That is wrong for
those Core members to do. There were wrong, they should have walked out.

You need all Core members to sign off and even if you could do that, that doesn't
mean the community will accept those changes. That is what the miners did not
understand and what you are missing here. Everyone was wrong. The HK agreement
was wrong before it was written. Core Devs have no right o do that. It was an error
at the time and will likely never happen again.

3) Jihan stated that he like Extension Blocks. At the time he made the comment, Ext
block was not patched yet. After the shit hit the fan, Poon agreed to patch it and did
supposedly. When I originally made that comment, it was made in that context. So
thus, "now that Ext Block has been patched Jihan will not support it". It was not
intended to be read as you are reading it. I guess I should have said "Jihan CAN not
support it".

In Bitmain's public statement about the ASICBoost issue, they argue against Maxwell's
proposed patch and argues that everyone should use ASICBoost (which Jihan owns
the rights to on his chips). If he is willing to still use the now patched Ext blocks, he
should go on the record and state such, since he originally stated he "Loves Ext Blocks",
he can easily tweet "I love the new patched Ext Blocks". Many issues would be resolved
then. It doesn't prove that he won't back down later, but it would be a powerful gesture,
in general, IMO.