I've read many, many books, and the Bible, and Koran, are the most elegantly written.
Note: you sound exactly like Trump, a known liar/con-artist (you know its a lie when he says, "believe me")I haven't read the Quran myself, but I hear it is elegant when read in Arabic (but many become atheist after reading it in English, they say it's ugly)
The bible on the other hand, not so much... It's not poetic, it has pages full of laws, genealogies, etc., not elegant (though most of the laws are quite amusing... can't wear clothing made of 2 different fabrics, or eat meat and cheese in the same meal... wtf?)
The bible is full of atrocious behavior (as noted above), which you apparently don't mind...
I agree that 2000+ years ago, times were different... but the point is... to an eternal god, it should not change... a god with no beginning or end, who knows all of space-time, would not be such a prick in the old testament (angry, jealous, vengeful, spiteful), and a nice guy in the new testament... eternity doesn't work like that, it's a blatant contradiction
Multiple people have provided passages contradicting your claim that the bible is elegantly written...
Do you have any passages to support your claim, or are we supposed to believe you without any facts or evidence to back up your claim?
What claims have I made? Ive stated that I think the Bible is the bees knees, as far as writing goes, as well as the Koran. Ive also stated that I think Jesus was a badass speaker. And that most Christians don't diddy bip each other with mops during service. I'm not really try to sell you anything, anyone anything, for that matter. We haven't really discussed your particular deal with Christianity, I don't know your beef.. I would enjoy the conversation, I like to test my faith and reaffirm it. It would also contribute to my post count, which is most righteous for my bitcoin wallet.
So, let's start an actual discussion about Christianity,. I agree with your views on organized religion. The sects, and not the message, are the problem in my book. People go off by themselves and interpret the book in novel ways, then come back to the fold with unfamiliar ideas that the whole rejects. At the worst, these sects turn into cults, social societies that reflect a singular person ideas, rather than the message. But the message itself, in my opinion, is beyond reproach. Yes, there is shittyness in the Bible; it reflects a harder time when Gods touch was more evident. We werent as smart, the symbols were alot bokder, so to speak, to drive the point home. It's not cute, the Old Testament reads like the Game of Thrones. Mofos dying left and right the worst ways. But the point is to learn from their adversity; the tales were recorded to instill ideas on future generations. God's wrath is a bitch, ask Old Testament Jews. But his love is infinite; and the teachings of Jesus reflect this, a softer tone with biting rhetoric that teaches moral indignation and divine wrath , but a civil, pacifist approach to conflict resolution. That's what the Big Guy intended, but sadly, the message got list, so to speak, in modern society.
So, where do we disagree? I don't have time to read this whole thread, bit I speed read, so if you want me to familiarize myself with your previously stated positions, inform me, and allow me some time to research. I love a good synthetic conversation, in my opinion, a good argument among friends about something stimulating is God's gift. Floats my boat
So let's get to know each other, Moloch. Your move.