I'm under the impression that the whole /r/btc is a private party room of Roger Ver's paid trolls. It seems to be quite a waste of time trying to educate these shills. They are not accessible to rational argument, because they only care about their fiat/shitcoin paycheck.
Franky1 is one prime example for that type of character.
The right way to deal with these enemies of Bitcoin is to sideline them. They are free to construct their centralized Paypal 3.0, but they are not part of the Bitcoin community.
Actually, the overwhelming majority of /r/btc is now all the people who got banned on /r/Bitcoin for voicing concerns about SegWit/LN, Core and Blockstream.
Many shill for BU simply because of that, and are not open to be reasoned with.
There's a lot of people that have deep hatred for theymos because he banned them, and they accuse him of being an evil actor in the community, yet, I haven't seen anyone getting banned for no logical reason. Most people that get banned is due spamming 100's of messages per hour, or spamming links etc. This forum is cool because is very permissive if you are posting in the right section.
The reddit is another story because I barely use it, but I haven't seen clear evidence of theymos being a tyrannical dictator. /r/bitcoin is about satoshi's client mostly, and satoshi didn't want other competing clients himself. Im ok with discussing the other clients but I remember an obvious shilling campaign for other clients while indiscriminately FUDding back in the XT days, and that had to be stopped.