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Re: Where are you 'Iamnotback'?
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the_end_is_near
on 05/05/2017, 11:39:31 UTC
Edit on May 5:

Someone sent me a PM suggesting that I try to compromise with @Theymos. I declined. The reason is because I've been compromising for the past 4 years dealing with this inane insane asylum forum. I am tired of fighting with all the trolls and being blindsided by moderation. I think I need to create something better. I don't think I need to go backwards into the cesspool. So thanks, but no thanks. If BCT is improved, I might change my mind.

To elaborate a bit, I am a pragmatic person and did choose to use BCT rather than attempt a more difficult challenge. I am normally a person who is willing to compromise in order to facilitate the most efficient path forward. But I also learned in life that once you've been severely abused, if you come back for more, you'll be abused more. The pattern we see early in a relationship never changes. I have learned from life, that what we see is what we get. People don't change.

So no! I am not going to come back for more abuse. Sorry. There is no possible compromise other than if BCT is improved to fix what is causing the problems. But of course it won't be improved ever. It won't change.

Additionally the rules are ambiguous and arbitrary and I would have to walk on eggshells. Sorry I don't want to live my life worried about everything. BCT isn't worth the headaches.

I do not want to continue discussions on a site where I have deal with so many trolls and don't have the moderation tools available so I can efficiently squelch their strife. It simply isn't worth the disruption to production. It is a cesspool of noise and strife. I don't want my important technological content being buried and obscured by trolls and subject to deletion by mods. It creates too much duplication of work and wastes enormous quantities of time dealing with crap. This time could be better invested in productive activities.

To the idiot who keeps sending me PMs and thinks he knows better than me, you're just another troll. Please stop. It has nothing to do with my ego. It has to do with stopping the daily strife, so that I can get work done. Stop being so worried about how I will market my project. I know what I am doing. And you don't! So please STFU and stop sending me PMs. I don't need your advice nor your opinion. It's just more noise. I get so much noise from this forum. If you can do something important, go do it. Stop running your mouth and causing me to waste more time explaining it to you. I don't need to explain. I know what I am doing and that is the only person who needs to know at this juncture.

A permissionless crypto-currency is not well matched to a permissioned forum. Mavericks don't attain greatness by compromising their goals and ideals and pussy footing around.

Oh btw, I never wrote that I wouldn't consider buying advertising (from @Theymos or from users' signature space) in the future. It remains a possibility, although there are other choices as well such as Coindesk, Coinmarketcap, etc.. I haven't analyzed that yet. Too premature.

Due to the recent changes implemented by theymos I would not trust to post in a thread I've not started. Sorry.

Re: MPOE-PR Perma-Banned after warning, Temp Ban more appropriate?

You don't get banned for swearing at a moderator. MPOE-PR was asked to stop spamming/trolling by Maged, and rather than stopping, she swore at him. The act of insulting Maged itself didn't get her banned, it was the warning, and then lack of acknowledgement of the warning that got the ban.

As much as MPOE-PR (Mircea Popescu) was hated she/he was usually right when he called bullshit (and that's why people hated him). He had Bitfinex pegged in 2013: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230182.0


This troll continues to lecture and patronize me in PMs after I've told him to please stop, so in case anyone else has similar thoughts to him, let's just bring it in the open and address it:

His bans will not automatically expire, and any future alts we see from him will be permabanned. I may manually reconsider his ban if he promises to actually try not to break forum rules. The rules are not meant to silence anyone, but to keep the forum usable and fair. When someone multi-posts excessively, it monopolizes a thread in a way which harms everyone else's ability to communicate. Based on his posts in this thread, I think that he will just continue to break rules if unbanned, so I will not unban him at this time.

You read that Shelby, the owner himself came here to offer a truce and a chance to shake hands if you promise to stop fucking around copy pasting your posts in 2000 threads, even though you insulted him and the rest multiple times.

As I see it he has a set of unbreakable rules and you have somehow crossed the line. We are technically in his property and we should respect his rules, no matter how stupid they seem to be in our opinion.

That also means he appreciates you and your comments, as the rest of us, but he also has principles and his ego, as you do. Don't be fucking silly and take advantage of it, you can stop this farts battle now. You don't have to do it publicly, you could send him a PM.

Besides, you gonna need this platform to promote your incoming project, so c'mon. Be water my friend. We need ya here.

I am not a beta male. I don't need him nor his inane forum. Observe the outcome.

That has nothing to do with being a beta male, or a dick contest. That has to do with having or not street smarts. You can use his own platform to undermine him. Direct confrontation is not always the best strategy to defeat the enemy.

Maybe reading "The Art of War" again could help ya understand my point.

http://scienceofstrategy.org/main/content/winning-without-conflict

You don't seem to have enough experience in life. You are forcing me to explain what a wise man knows.

It has nothing to do with a dick contest!!! What the fuck is wrong with you. You are acting like all the other trolls.

I've quoted from the Art of War in the past. Please you aren't telling me anything I don't already know. Do you think I am so clueless. I know what I am doing.

I added one more comment to the post:

Additionally the rules are ambiguous and arbitrary and I would have to walk on eggshells. Sorry I don't want to live my life worried about everything. BCT isn't worth the headaches.

You might well know everything but you are applying nothing from it. You prefer conflict over diplomacy, the longer and rougher path, being clear you will be the one losing the most in this conflict.

You take it as if he slapped you publicly and you must stand your ground to avoid being taken for a ride and appear as a wimp, when the reality is he's already made concessions coming to this thread and posting why you're banned and how you can reverse it, because he wants you in the forum, but respecting his admittedly stupid rules.

But you have to double down like fucking "el Chapo", when it is painfully clear this is not the way to win this war, nor the right strategy.

Your target users - the pioneers and speculators needed to get the ball rolling and start the network effect - are already here.

Better start marketing your project here to make your life easier until you have reached critical mass?

You are another troll who is wasting my time. Please go away.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18864936#msg18864936

I already told you, I know what i am doing. And you don't. Please stop lecturing me. I am smarter than you realize.

You don't know what i am doing. You are too blind to even detect it.

Absolutely! I'm another troll and you need to sleep it off.

The ban will help ya to focus on your project, and stop embarrassing yourself here in the forum.

If you're embarrassed for me, that is your problem and prerogative. I'm not at all embarrassed.

Who the fuck is going to invest in your project after reading all your rants?

Certainly not you! Which will be perfect when you are so jealous after the others gain so much while you'll be too butthurt to invest.

"Know your enemy and know yourself"

Fuck your inane platitudes. I actually know how the work gets done. Your misapplication of the Art of War as hammer for every nail, is your ignorance and inexperience on display.

Do you realize how stupid it is for you presume you know better than me and then lecture me. I am not 20 years old. I have experience. I know what I am doing.

Seems you are unable to manage people and lead a team, after seeing you can't appreciate people giving you sound advice.

Noise makers are the Mythical Man Month. They reduce production, not increase it.

You are socially inept, and fail to understand how important a skill it is to manage people to execute a project.

I am socially adept. I have entertained large crowds at Comdex. Have you not watched my video I did last year on Ethereum and consensus designs?


I recorded a video of myself to try to explain some of these issues:

http://coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Shelby_Ethereum_Paradox.avi


You're so damn self-important.

You definitely have not what it takes to form and lead a team to execute this project.

You have not the ability to judge what I can and can't do.

All you're doing is appeasing your self-importance ego and wasting my time.

Maybe you are a really good CTO, but you will need a CEO still, a business partner. The problem is you won't be willing to respect his strategic decisions, because you are an arrogant know-it-all, unable to understand your own limitations and be part of a team and delegate the decision making process to someone with the chops for it.

You are ironically, as per Raymond's post, an execution b-lister.

Loud self-display? check. Insecurity? check. Constant approval-seeking? check. Overinflating one’s accomplishments? check. Touchiness about slights? check. Territorial twitchiness about one’s expertise? check.

But yeah, you just need more fanboys and yesmen to adore you and tell ya how great and super smart you are, instead of "trolls" like me that actually tell you the problems as they see them from the outside, so you can actually pivot and rectify your strategy. And that is, in a nutshell, your problem: you will form a politically correct team of yesmen that will handle ya with kids gloves.

Don't bother to answer back, I already know the BS you'll write. Don't try to waste my time again. This will be my last message. I honestly don't give a shit anymore.

Now I see clearly that your project, if you ever execute it, will be good for a PnD or two, not long term investing.

All I can say, is do NOT invest because you have it all figured out correctly. Roll Eyes

That will be perfect.

And the loud display is you refusing to stop lecturing me. I told you I had it under control, but you are determined to ram your self-important, b-lister ego shit down my throat.

  • Insecurity. Responding to debate is not a display of insecurity dufus.
  • Constant approval seeking. As the essay says, I figure if I am not regularly pissing people off, then I'm doing something wrong. How on earth did you interpret that I'm seeking approval. I never sugar coat anything in order to get approval. I always speak what I believe to be the facts.
  • Overinflating one’s accomplishments. Never have I done this. I speak factually about my accomplishments and failures.
  • Touchiness about slights. When I try to ignore you trolls, you don't stop badgering me. That is why I am leaving so I can create some proper moderation controls, so in the future you trolls will disappear with one click of "ignore forever". As a prolific and controversial poster, BCT forces one to fight against all the self-important crab bucket mentality trolls, or to disengage. I tried fighting back, now I am disengaging.
  • Territorial twitchiness about one’s expertise. Debating is what BCT is for. Debating is not twitchniness, but rather is one of the main functions of the forum. Eric means someone who claims exclusive expertise and tries to prevent anyone else from claiming to have that expertise. I don't do that. I'm happy when I can find the rare person that has expertise that I also have, so we can jam together.
  • Loud self-display. I'm simply responding to the posts in the thread. Being prolific is not a loud self-display. Nicholas Taleb is prolific also in the volume of material he publishes (even on Medium), but that doesn't make it a loud self-display. Eric means those who try to pump up their own reputation by boasting or what ever. I try to make sure that readers have the facts as I understand them to be, because I know in many cases there is no one else on the forum who will give them that factual information. And the readers know and appreciate this, that is why there are here demanding that I be unbanned.

You could rightfully accuse me of trying too hard to try to clarify many things for readers. I think most A-listers have realized that the more we try to explain, the more people will be pissed off and have misconceptions. You're an example of that. As I said, I am disengaging because this experiment has taught me that as much as I would like to help others understand, I actually can't help others understand. C'est la vie.

You're yet another clueless idiot who thinks he knows something, but actually doesn't.



Edit on May 6:

To further address @Skalpell’s allegation that I prefer conflict over diplomacy, diplomacy requires that both sides get something they want or need, i.e. a win-win. What has been offered by Theymos is a win-lose, thus of course only a defeated person would accept it. He made absolutely no concessions or improvements at all. He basically said I have to admit that everything is my fault and suck it up and then maybe, just maybe (but probably not), they might just barely let me back in the door. Which means at the first opportunity they will simply ban me again and then all the momentum I could have had by standing my ground and winning will be lost. In short, you don’t even understand what compromise and diplomacy entail, so you are no position to be judging me and ramming unsolicited advice down my throat. Diplomacy can only begin with mutual respect. Theymos only bothered to post in the thread, because some members with high reputations are not happy with the ban. Theymos has absolutely 0 respect for me, as evident by his win-lose (he wins and I lose) proposal.

As if your users are at fault when your policies and software are inane. Blaming the customer is the dumbest possible thing a business can do. It is the business shooting itself in the foot.