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Board Politics & Society
Re: That Great Big Beautiful Wall
by
GreenBits
on 10/05/2017, 15:08:05 UTC
How do you get welfare benefits, or any social welfare, without a valid and unique SSN?

Oh.. common... we are talking about a country where there is no ID proof requirement for voting. Once an illegal manages to enroll in the voters list, he can cast his ballot in any election.
I'll concede that, in one of the States that doesn't ID. But being on a voter roll doesn't make you a citizen, it doesn't confer a valid ID, and it doesn't make you eligible for SNAP benefits. Even if they did manage to vote. SNAP is a federal thing provisioned by the state. The requirements are the same in all states.

BTW, don't you think it's odd that for all the millions of illegal votes, none had abnormal vote counts? How do you add extra people to a system, that only counts votes attached to a social? How can a person that is not on a voting roll, vote?

https://www.quora.com/How-easy-is-it-for-an-illegal-immigrant-to-vote-in-California

The main point is that illegal immigrants generally avoid any interaction with local, state, or the Federal government if at all possible, because such interaction greatly increases the odds that they and/or their families will be deported. About the only public organization that doesn't ask any questions are the public schools, when new kids are presented by their parents.

This unwillingness to interact with government officials has disadvantages for the rest of us (beyond driving down wages, and not being able to "ship them out"). Crimes go unreported. Illnesses go untreated until the sufferer is finally forced to crowd into an emergency room. Drivers go onto the streets without proper instruction or knowing the rules of the road.

[Regarding Bill AB60:] California attempted to address the last symptom by allowing illegal residents to obtain driver's licenses with no questions regarding immigration status. While obtaining a license, the applicant is "automatically" registered to vote, unless they opt out. Potential voters have to demonstrate proof of age, for which most people show a birth certificate or a passport, which reflects citizenship.

Even if an invalid application makes it beyond a service window at the DMV, they electronically transfer the voter registration information to the Secretary of State's office, and the state rejects those for which they have no computerized record of citizenship. So, the state gets two whacks at preventing illegal voter registration. No registration means no name on the voter lists at the balloting sites come election day.


And the kids are citizens. They get whatever citizens get