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Re: Scam alert! Betcoinrakeback.com stole players money
by
DarkDays
on 12/05/2017, 18:57:59 UTC

Not even close to 600 people.  600 have signed up by clicking the link over the last 3 years, but only 40 active players.  As you know, Betcoin has over 100k sign ups, but significantly less active.



That's interesting you say that, because you've said "I have 400 people/500 people/600 people" NUMEROUS times in the past year and a half, and used that stat (which you've now admitted was a misrepresentation of the truth) to try to shut people down who were exposing your scam and defending yourself and Betcoin.  But when I use the numbers that you yourself have provided so many many times, you jump to your defense.  How was anyone supposed to know the real number, since you said the fake one so often.  Here, see:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1554617.msg17008485#msg17008485


Some announcements and things worth noting:


-Table Starter Rakeback doesn't exist anymore.  There is no timetable for it to return. 

-Betcoin Sports Book does not offer 2-10% better odds than most sports books.  That's ridiculous.

-Xiao does not offer 58%-133% rake back or have hundreds of "rake-back pros" He also doesn't do this out of the goodness of his heart.  He does it for the Casino/Sports revenue.  (nothing wrong with that, except lying about it)


-And as always, check out BetcoinRakeback.com!

When are YOU going to stop lying?  No one has time to butt heads with you.  Why is it just you and your alternate/internet goons polluting my thread?

Yeah, look at their odds in comparison to other sportsbooks.  You're an unbelievable troll.

I'm not lying.

I don't have alternate or internet goons.

I have looked at their odds in comparison to other books, occasionally you'll find better line there.  Unless you're being intentionally ambiguous when you say "Betcoin offers nearly 2-10% better odds than most sports books!", maybe there's a misunderstanding.  Are you returning any of your affiliate commission to players for their sports bets?  I wasn't calculating that, if so.  Since you said yourself you don't rely on sports or casino commission from players (I admit, I don't believe you, but I'll play along) maybe if you started returning 100% of your sports and casino commission to every poker player you would benefit overall.  I'm sure the players would appreciate it anyway.



600+ players on my rakeback program and only you are trolling me.  I wonder why... and you're not even a player under me.  Get lost.


Betcoin is a cancer to the poker and bitcoin communities. 

Stop promoting them and I'll stop annoying you.   



More attacks, lies, trolling, making false claims to back up his stance, etc by Twitchy.


You used the "600+ players on my rakeback program" to get out of answering questions about Betcoin and your program.  Since you now admit that there were under 40, would you like to answer those questions?  Would you like to appologize to Twitchy for what you said to him?

Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1057529.msg16737185#msg16737185

Over 600 players have taken advantage of this rewarding program.  Get in now and good luck!



You claim 612 players signed up under you, and that "Over 600 players have taken advantage of this rewarding program". 

Also here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.msg16725820#msg16725820

Over 600 players have taken advantage of this rewarding program.  Get in now and good luck!



Here you claim "Over 500 Players on this Permanent Rakeback Service": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.msg16200595#msg16200595

BetcoinRakeback.com

Direct Poker Room Sign-up for Extra Rakeback











Rakeback Sent Weekly Consistently








The Highest Rakeback Referral System







Over 500 Players on this Permanent Rakeback Service











Excellent Support and Feedback


Support@BetcoinRakeback.com or BetcoinRakeback@gmail.com for questions, comments and suggestions!




The rakeback deal is great.
Glad to have it.

Just to add my +1, Xiao is very easy to work with (probably the easiest/most attentive affiliate I've ever dealt with), and is excellent at communicating with his players.  If a payment is going to be late he lets people know before hand with a clear reason and timetable, something that very few people in the industry do.


Solid affiliate and best rakeback i've gotten in awhile.

I agree 100%  I could not be happier with this RB deal.  I suggest you jump on it before it goes away.


Sharing my experience too. All seems pretty legit. I was set up pretty quickly and xiao arranged it all in double quick time. I have a quick question while I am here though. Can I get my stats for amount raked and rb rec'd so far please?
Anyway I must say I'm very happy with the deal and have recommended it to others.

At Xiao's request I wanted to give my experience with betcoin and Xiao both.

Before swc changed hands the action was better on swc fur cash games, now it's closer.  I have had fast cash outs, wick response from support, and generally no issues.

Xiao has paid rake back consistently, and has been communicative when payment for his commission has been held up.  If you go through this thread you'll see him posting players out of his own pocket when payment has been held up from betcoin.

I don't play much anymore, but played poker fur a living for years, and have had many many rake back and prop deals, I can say with full confidence xiao is top tier professional.  I don't know him personally, but have recommended several people to this very thread.

The rakeback is really really generous, much better than you will get from swc.  If you prefer to play tournaments, it's not even close since betcoin gets you access to wpn tournaments.

Yes, Xiao reached out to me and asked to give a review, but my review is definitely my own.  He (she?) is a top tier affiliate, and betcoin is totally legit.. Plus it works well with the various stat huds.









Xiao has also asked me to share my experience, which I am happy to do.

I had some issues getting tracked initially, Xiao and betcoin both worked with me and we got it resolved quickly and easily.  Chris at betcoin called Xiao a "trusted affiliate" which was helpful.

I've only been on betcoin a few weeks, RB payments have come in regularly for the duration.  There have been occasional delays and Xiao has been very good about communicating them here in the thread so there are no mysteries.

Currently there is no integrated way to check RB stats, but Xiao offers them if you want an update.  I haven't asked as my payments have lined up with what I'd expect.

Very satisfied so far, overall the only question is that of longevity as I've only been around about a month, looking good though!

Xiaoxiao has been nothing but a gentleman to deal with and his customer service is excellent - quick response time, transparent answers and overall excellence. 

Everyone who plays poker for bitcoins should be signing up through him in order to receive all the awesome incentives from playing at BetCoin Poker.



Well I can say I can be added to the list of happy users of this RB deal ;


If you combine the 50% RB + the VIP rewards, aswell as the cheap rake to start with, Betcoin  is simply the cheapest place to play poker.

It can turn a lot of losing players -  especially on smaller stakes - into winning ones, considering the difference in bb/100 compared to the standard rake in the industry is in the 10bb/100 order !!!



 

I also signed up to Betcoin through Xiao's rakeback deal.

- Betcoin is currently the best cryptocurrency poker site. Good action, a variety of games offered, and an excellent rewards program. Support is a bit lacking but they've handled all important issues efficiently.

- I wholeheartedly recommend Xiao's rakeback deal. He is very quick in answering any PMs I send him and sends out the rakeback in a timely manner. Sometimes there is a week delay, which I believe he may not be faulted for.

Overall an excellent affiliate deal for anyone looking for a good cryptocurrency poker site.


Wow you guys need to leave Xiao the fuck alone, everything about this service is amazing.

Wow this is still going? You guys realize betcoin has said they will issue refunds on a case by case basis right? Also what do you hope to accomplish here with this crap? Xaio is very helpful to players. He is the opposite of what you are accusing him/betcoin to be and has always acted transparently and ethically towards his players. Twitchy and donk4u and dark days are way beyond out of line at this point and as has been pointed out in every thread about this subject are clearly mentally ill.

Thank you Xiaoxiao for receiving the rakeback 3 weeks already. It is realy helpful  Cool
Keep the great work

Hey new signup here and I see that my account was credited with last weeks rakeback. legit! Not much since I spread out my play to other cardrooms, but now I will play here more often!

Thanks for doing this rakeback deal!




https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573311.msg15795111#msg15795111

It's one person that has a vendetta against Betcoin and blowing things out of proportion with alternate accounts and co-conspirators.  It's FUD.  I've got 500 players on my list alone.  I just sent out rakeback to like 70 players.... all these people must be dumbasses to play on a scam site...  Roll Eyes Betcoin must be a scam to be accepted into the WPN and able to pay out the $1m gtd  Roll Eyes  and has the sportsbook and casino providers they have  Roll Eyes



"I've got over 500 players on my list alone.  I just sent out rakeback to like 70 players."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1531512.msg15496195#msg15496195

Please remember this:

Quote
-At the end of each week please PM or email support@betcoinrakeback.com in the following format:

Member Ranking:

# of qualifying posts:

# of qualifying threads started:

Total amount due:

Form of payment (Ƀ Address or Betcoin Username)

I manage 500+ player's rakeback payments.  The rules are there for a reason.  It is your duty to report to me your posts/earnings at the end of each week (Mon-Sun EST) and then I will review and send.

You manage over 500 player's rakeback payments and that's why you couldn't keep up with your sig campaign?  But I thought it was only 40?  Were you already firing off other people's money back then and had to lie more to keep people off your back?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1540222.msg15480918#msg15480918

"since I have already 500+ users on this service"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.msg13898297#msg13898297

2/15/16 Attention: Currently there are ~400 satisfied users under this 40% additional rakeback program and 10,000 - 60,000 satisfied users at Betcoin.  This is here to stay!


Oh, also, I found these fun nuggets:

"Not everyone's a degenerate gambler like you. You go around gambling like a fat man goes around visiting buffets."

From the man who was currently blowing other people's money and borrowing to try to pay them back. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg16200464#msg16200464


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.msg16200411#msg16200411

I don't have to lie to you.  Lying isn't part of my personality.