Re: Why Bitcoin Core Developers won't compromise

whether our technological level has reached the point where we can
do it now without sacrificing current security. Obviously, 10 years from now, a 2-4
MB blocksize hardfork is extremely doable and should preserve the current security

As someone who "supports" segwit on it's merits, and a 2Mb block increase for compromise, I have yet to see any compelling argument for this. Can someone point me to something I can read and digest that would actually accomplish that plus something that refutes that. I'm not talking about things that are filled with propaganda and ideology but solid arguments based on technical issues and facts etc.

But as "guardians of the protocol", their power is zilch, and hence as "decentralizing power element" their influence is zilch.

I've read a lot of your posts on this and you've failed to convince me except in the case where 100% of the miners are in agreement and in opposition to a very large majority of those running full nodes.

If, for example, 75% (hash) of the miners decide to change something radical about the protocol, the full nodes can choose to reject their blocks while accepting those from 25% of the miners. Yes, the entire system is disrupted for some period of time but it was going to be anyway.

I agree with you, but in that case, it are STILL NOT the full nodes that decide one way or another, but the users in the market *with their money*, not with their nodes.

Right, but I never said full nodes are the only ones that decide one way or another, you're saying that and then saying the conclusion is that they thus have zero power. You've simply failed to convince me that full nodes have zero power. It's more like a 3 tier system. Everything is fine as long as everyone agrees with what the miners are doing. If they don't, it's bumped up to the full nodes and from there it can continue up to the final level of users. At the end of the day, it's a combination of all 3 that will finally settle on some sort of resolution.