Re: Trump Ramadan speech

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This year, the holiday begins as the world mourns the innocent victims of barbaric terrorist attacks in the United Kingdom and Egypt, acts of depravity that are directly contrary to the spirit of Ramadan.

Such acts only steel our resolve to defeat the terrorists and their perverted ideology.

Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.

Problem is that terrorism is a form of Jihadism. And Jihadism is required to advance the Islamist goals.

There are three distinct things at play here:

- Islam - religion (just like any other religion, belief in ancient nonsense)
- Islamism - desire to impose ANY version of Islam on others
- Jihadism - use of force to advance Islamism

When Muslims talk about Islam, bow five times a day to an imaginary friend and don't care what other people believe or think, they go about their own business never think twice about advancing or spreading Islam.
They really mean "Islam is a religion of peace" (to them it is). Of course, they conveniently ignore Islamism and Jihadism.

Islamism and Jihadism should be banned. Problem is that it is impossible to separate Islamism from Islam.

That is why this religion will have a really hard time to reform and eventually, it will fail. The question is not if, but when.

All fine and good, but what about Christians and Jews? I'm Jewish but I notice things like are mentioned on http://ifamericaknew.org/ Are those things true? Or is it just Muslims that kill civilians and try to couch it as "defending their interests"? And do you think the Muslims who kill vast numbers of their own over "terrorism" are anti terrorist? Or are they terrorizing their people in the name of counterterror, sort of cryptoterroristicislamo deception just because they enjoy blood?

Quote from: fryger on May 26, 2017, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: PeterTheGrape on May 26, 2017, 07:51:36 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-ramadan-statement-talk-terrorism-article-1.3198626
Those of you who protest the 100 or so civilians we just killed in Mosul need to remember that the cost of terrorism is high. We may have to keep killing civilians at an ever higher rate, and you can be sure that if we kill enough civilians terror will become a thing of the past.

Sorry, but I couldn't find that quote in the article. Are you sure Trump said that? Sounds way too extreme for a president to say, and also hypocritical especially considering they constantly attack Russia for supposed civilian casualties in Syria. Are you sure that's not fake news or something?

I'm sure. I don't believe in fake news. I don't think it is real.

Jihadists are not very selective who their enemy is.

It all depends on where they live and what their Islamist handlers decide.

Remember most Jihadists are failures in life. Not very bright to begin with. Gullible and easy to manipulate.

Israel is in a very difficult position. Look at the map and demographics of the region.

Jews have been demonized because Muslims are just jeleaous, IMHO. Jews through hard work are in the top of pretty much every field in science and technology. Where are Muslims? Looking for reasons of their demise....

Jihadists are just victims of brainwashing. They are once the poor street kids without nothing to eat and they were adopted, fed and taught by the extreme jihadists since young. Those children become perfect weapons for suicide bombings. Jihadists are not consider to be a defender of Islam but just a terrorist who hunger for revenge, violence and war.