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Re: Jihan/Ver, BIP148/UASF, r/bitcoin r/btc... how do I sift through the BS?
by
The One
on 29/05/2017, 20:03:43 UTC
So I'm no where near as tech savy as the top minds in Bitcoin's field, but I do have a very strong understanding of what Bitcoin currently is and how it can potentially change the world... I spend a lot of time reading about new bitcoin stuff on reddit, specifically... but what I want to know is this...

r/btc and r/bitcoin are so polar opposite in terms of viewpoint it's almost impossible for me to figure out who is full of garbage and who is not... who is being honest and who is not?  How am I possibly supposed to know?  Are both sides being completely honest and operating with bitcoin's best interest and just have a strong disagreement, or is one side of the argument being disingenuous for personal gain or even more malicious reasons such as trying to kill Bitcoin?

Honestly, both sides seem so passionately in opposition of one another that I have a hard time deciphering what's what... it would appear from a completely neutral and outsider's perspective that has no dog in this hunt other than the betterment of Bitcoin that the guys in favor of UASF are telling the truth, but I really don't know... I really don't.

I have read a lot over the past year but I am still no where near up to speed as to where I'd like to one day... so who's full of it?  What exactly is going on within the Bitcoin community?


Bad mistake. Reddit is a pile of crap. Mostly useless opinions and attacks, rather than proper debates.

Understanding is a three-edged sword; Core side, BU side and the truth. You need to find the truth, which is your own understanding based on your research. Ask yourself what is Bitcoin to you? Peer to peer electronic cash (BU, individuals like me) or settlement payment for the few (Core) or whatever. From there you can do you research and decide for yourself. If someone has an opposite view from you, it doesn't mean they are shrilling, bad, wrong etc. It just that they have decided that Bitcoin to them is different from Bitcoin to you. Of course those who can't debate becomes shrillers/FUDs, basically using any arguments, no matter how stupid/childish they look, in order to forcibly persuade oppositions to their side. Ignore those cretins.

Yes, personal gain. Changing the codes in order to siphon fees away from miners to private centralised entity is a no no in my opinion. There is something else in play. Pride and ego. Pride is 1 of the 7 deadly sins. Remove the ego will reduce pride and allows humility. At the moment i see egos all around me. As The One, i see pride and ego useless 'emotions' to have. A small bit of ego in certain circumstance that doesn't affect anyone else is fine. A small bit of pride that doesn't affect anyone else is fine. Pride for a child that wins a race is fine. Thus developers need to evolve as a human being, remove the ego and pride, one removes stubbornness. Then there is greed, another deadly sin. Greed not from the decentralise nature of Bitcoin, but from the centralised nature of those outside Bitcoin, trying to change Bitcoin into an earning stream for themselves. I, and many others, detest this centralisation.

Again, truth is subjective. UASF is a very risky move with many unseen side effects. Many of us see a simple increase in blocksize, whether fixed or dynamic, is something that can easily be done. It is painfully obvious that 1mb, a temporary measure, is too low. No one is asking for 1gb blocksize.

Bitcoin as a decentralised software is working as intended. No one can force a change in codings when there are oppositions, thus preventing the decentralise nature of Bitcoin from corruption. Thus the "civil war" is ongoing.