Got home and played around with things a little.  I started with the Red Devil card.  I verified that the straps were set correctly.  I was able to get 29 mh/s with this card by itself!  Core was at 1100, and memory at 2100.  Upping the memory to 2200 seemed to drop hashing down to 11?  

Then I moved onto the Red Dragon.  It looked like I missed changing the memory straps on this one.  After making the changes I tried mining with it alone and am only getting like 18 mh/s .  Looks like the memory is Hynix?  Is that the reason it hashed so low?

I might have to just sell the Red Dragon I guess and try to find another Red Devil.

ETA:  The Red Dragon seems to be all over the place with the hashing power.  It varies from 5 to 18.