Can we have one BFL thread that doesn't end up debating the same offtopic things that 10 billion other threads already do?
Sorry but that's not going to happen when you have the BFL frontman himself trolling the topic despite the fact that he's been too busy to post an update that
he said would "come in the next day or two, hopefully" two weeks ago

. I've stayed out of the BFL lynch mob so far but couldn't help but join in when I saw his attitude here.
When I do a deal, it is what it worth, at that time...
At the time people placed their pre-orders, the deal was to have an ASIC miner delivered by Jan 1st. Every month of delay lowers that worth from the original valuation. That devaluation is based on BTC and has nothing to do with the exchange rate or any factors external to BFL. Originally I sided with BFL since they offered full refunds so I felt people willingly chose to stay on board and shouldn't complain. Then when I really dug through Josh's post history,
it does seem very likely that he posted fraudulent ship dates to string people along. Why would you cancel your order in Feb if they were just about to ship in March? He's held that carrot right out in front leading everybody the entire way one little lie at a time. Look at the
last two updates. First he says "We plan on shipping possibly by the end of next week" then two weeks later mentions "We've been working on getting the software and firmware nailed down". This has my bullshit meter pegged. It's starting to become clear the Josh has never had any idea when they might ship and just keeps staying "almost there". I think the reason Josh can't find time to post that update that's two weeks over due is because saying nothing is easier than telling another lie that the "trolls" will hold him accountable for...