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Re: Health and Religion
by
Astargath
on 15/07/2017, 11:42:52 UTC

The problem is, that god can do something about it, he can do anything, can't he? If I know that my house will get burned tomorrow and I can prevent it then I will just prevent it, it makes no sense to not do anything about it knowing it's going to happen and then get angry, why would I be angry? It makes no sense as I said. God makes no sense.

If I knew my kids will mess up their lives and I can do something to help them then I will just do something to help them, considering god can do anything then again makes no sense.

As for why God does not prevent suffering we must first understand the purpose of Creation.
  
The purpose of the Creation
http://www.azamra.org/Heal/Resources/Torahview.htm
Quote from: The Ramchal
To understand the meaning and purpose of suffering, we must first go back to the very purpose of the Creation and the meaning of our life in this world.

God's purpose in creation was to bestow of His good to another. Since God desired to bestow good, a partial good would not be sufficient. The good that He bestows would have to be the ultimate good that His handiwork could accept. True good exists only in God. His wisdom therefore decreed that the nature of this true benefaction be His giving created things the opportunity to attach themselves to Him to the greatest degree possible for them.

God's wisdom, however, decreed that for such good to be perfect, the one enjoying it must be its master. He must be one who has earned it for himself, and not one associated with it accidentally and without reason.

God therefore arranged and decreed the creation of concepts of both perfection and deficiency, as well as a creature with equal access to both namely, Man. This creature would then be given the means to earn perfection and avoid deficiency.

Man must earn this perfection, however, through his own free will and desire. If he were compelled to choose perfection, then he would not actually be its master, and God's purpose would not be fulfilled. It was therefore necessary that man be created with free will.

Man's inclinations are therefore balanced between good and evil, and he is not compelled toward either of them. He has the power of choice, and is able to choose either side, knowingly and willingly, as well as to possess whichever one he wishes. Man was therefore created with both a Good Urge and an Evil Urge. He has the power to incline himself in whichever direction he desires.

Perhaps God helps us much more than is commonly realized. Delinquent children often fail to appreciate the efforts of their concerned parents behind the scenes until much later in life. If one looks at the world of 1500 BC it was a dark place full of mysticism and brutality. We thought trees were magical, rocks harbored evil spirits, and volcanoes demanded living sacrifices.

A smarter species might have come to understand God without needing to be hit over the head by his reality. Miracles in the Bible and the need for the simplest basic behavior to be written out for us on a slab of stone tells us that humans needed a great deal of outside help.

Perhaps the entire nation of Israel was created to be just the kind of help you think is missing. When Israel chose to nearly destroy itself in futile rebellions against Rome instead of spreading the message of God to a declining empire desperate for spiritual truth perhaps Christianity was even more help for a slow species not really able to figure things out without a few nudges in the right direction.

I'm not talking about suffering. I'm talking about how he made adam and eve knowing they will sin or disobey him and then he punishes them for it. It was already built in by him therefore it makes no sense that he would punish them if he made them to do it. Again nonsensical.