I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.
When I begun in 2012, I remember a lot of people talking about to figh against banksters and centralizations. Satoshi were our god and their ideals our bible but now Money is the god and I'm the atheist in the middle of this church full of newbies, haters, dumbs and greeddy's people.
Where are them?
The real bitcoiners have already given up, since they have released how futile it would be for them to destroy the banks. The first investors would include people who probably just liked the idea of decentralization and invested when bitcoin was only a couple of cents and had no chance of going anywhere. We can't live without centralisation since people have been living on that idea for thousands of years.