I'm sad, I don't see bitcoiners anymore. Everybody only talk about money, money and money.
When I begun in 2012, I remember a lot of people talking about to figh against banksters and centralizations. Satoshi were our god and their ideals our bible but now Money is the god and I'm the atheist in the middle of this church full of newbies, haters, dumbs and greeddy's people.
Where are them?
The fundamental of bitcoin is it's sovereignty against other money and political systems. These that put a priority on maintaining a sovereign bitcoin above how quick and cheap you can buy your coffee with transaction are real bitcoiners. These want want to jeopardize everything in order to turn bitcoin into paypal as soon as possible are the ones that are against bitcoin and aren't real bitcoiners (Roger Ver and co)