No, as you said, it just has to be more complex lol
Are you really trying to say that the universe and cause and effect are barely more complex than you are?
Try tossing countless numbers of electrons, protons, and neutrons into existence in a cause and effect "pattern" and producing intelligence thousands of years later. Do you even know how to start to do this? God did it. His complexity is way beyond that of the resulting Universe He made.
When did I say ''barely'' You said the thing that created the universe has to be more complex than the universe and I said, ok, then that thing only has to be more complex, that still doesn't show it's god, it just shows the thing that created it has to be more complex.
It seems that badecker has given up, do you admit that you can't prove the existence of God now badecker or are you just trying to ignore me now.
Silly boy. By your posts in Health and Religion, you accept that God exists. Yet you want to deny the scientific proof, even though any dny points you have, have been rebutted (they weren't really points at all). Are you operating on faith that you believe in God now?
Get into the Bible and find out about Him, to strengthen the little bit of faith you have.
You lost, just admit it. You said complexity proved god and you never explained how, you just said the creator has to be more complex than the universe, which does not prove god.
See what a nice guy I am? I just found it for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
I guess that's admitting you lost because whenever someone asks you a direct question about something that you can't answer, you just post the links. Nowhere in those links you explain how complexity proves God.
Nobody is going to force you to look at or think about the answer to anything you ask. And often your questions is so extremely stupid that they don't deserve an answer. Why not? Because it is easily researchable on the Internet and elsewhere.
In addition, you can't be serious in some of your questions. Why not? You often ask a question that has been answered one or two posts directly above... posts that you quote in your post in which you ask the questions. What? Does your mommy still spoon-feed you, too?
The point is that you simply don't want to accept the science. So you play around with the words that describe the science.
Wake up and see that long ago science proved that God existed... from the time of Newton or earlier. All the science since then that tries to prove that God doesn't exist has only served to strengthen the proof that He does.
Ignoring the question does not prove your point. I said anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of the universe, not necessarily god and you have no rebuttal for that you just keep rambling and posting your links.
Why do you assume that anything more complex than the universe can be the creator of it? You don't have a clue about that.
What are you talking about, a rebuttal to what you said? People used to say the moon was made of green cheese. They didn't know, and you don't know.
What are you going to do? Sit around all day and talk stupidity? And then ask why somebody doesn't rebut your stupidity? You are getting more and more like those Flat Earth people all the time.
You are the one who keeps saying the creator has to be more complex, you are the one bringing complexity all the time and now you don't agree with it?
The point was the anything, not the complexity. You are a troll, just out there to twist things around, because you are being paid to drag people away from God.
Do you not agree that anything more complex than the universe can be it's creator?
Read my lips. Just because something might be more complex than the universe, doesn't necessarily give it the ability to be the creator of the universe. For example. If the "something" happens to be one electron more complex than the universe, why would that necessarily make it a creator of anything?
EDIT: BTW, there is no way to agree with much of anything you say. Why not? Because generally your statements are way too general to have much of any meaning at all.
My statements are yours lol. You said the creator had to be more complex and I said a lot of things could be more complex not necessarily god.
Then why do you suggest that I don't respond, when you go around asking questions that you have already answered? There is not necessarily any need to respond if you have already answered it.
Because you are trying to prove god and you admit it doesn't have to be god so I guess that's the end of this. Thank you for admitting it.