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Re: Aug 1 summary
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JayJuanGee
on 10/08/2017, 22:17:16 UTC
(I had some troubles receiving it, and I had to reorder it, too based on changes in the shipping dates).



they had to divert it through the NSA backchannel, nothing to worry about Jay   Tongue


I am not ruling that out completely - yet back to the original question, anyone split their BCH after reseeding the ledger nano s?

Here is the official word from Ledger (latest I know of anyhow):

https://blog.ledger.co/managing-the-bitcoin-cash-fork-7229dde3f358

Roughly speaking though, the "Bitcoin" Chrome App offers access to 3 wallets: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Cash "Split".  The later being in a different part of the HD hierarchy to improve safety.  The first two using the same addresses but on different chains.  If you're super paranoid about possible future replay attacks, move your bitcoin first.  I'd suggest moving your BCH into addresses into the "Split" wallet so that you are convinced you have the balances and control over the coins.  Then keep them there or do whatever you wish.  There is no "tool" or software for doing this per se from Ledger.  Just the wallets and control over the addresses provided.

PS haven't tried reseeding from a bitcoin.info wallet, but would assume it would work like any other reseeding with a BIP39 seed, unless they do something special.

Thanks for the responses and the blog link, els.  

I had seen that linked blog article before, but it is making more sense now that I have the ledger nano s in my grubby little hands.  

I remain a bit nervous about all of this, and I am looking into each of the various matters, now, and I had seen some other reseeding explanations on the blockchain.info subject that I will read through again too.  There were some on blockchain.info and I had seen some other explanations, too, but I suppose the blockchain.info explanations should be sufficiently clear, even for technical (and nervous) novices like myself.  

At some point soon, I will probably post a detailed outline of what I did, once I finish doing it or I might post some more questions if I run into some stumbling blocks while I am going through this process.  

I have some other things that I am trying to do, too (and some errands that I have to run later in the day), so sometimes, I get interrupted while I am in the process of preparing to perform this whole splitting thingie-ma-jiggie - but I am not going to rush what I am doing because I certainly don't want to lose any coins, even if the loss were to be only the currently .08 BCHs... hahahaha... even .08-ish can add up to quite a bit of real value.   Wink  

i suggest you just initialize your nano with the seed and then play around with the bitcoin app and nano to see if you see the expected balances on both blockchains.  [it is relatively harmless to initialize with a seed then zap the nano (e.g. enter 3 bad PIN codes) and start over, so long as you don't sign any transactions along the way.]  if you see your balances, then your are almost certainly good to proceed, as the nano has your private keys (same ones for BTC and BCH, until you split them)


That sounds like an additional good suggestion for a little extra anal security, verification and comfort, which I believe that i need with my feeling of having a kind of novice understanding.

I am a tiny bit confused by your description in this last post as compared with a previous post - but let me see if I can seek clarification by asking a couple of questions, and I might see the answers to these questions as I get further along, but I want to see if you (or anyone else) could possibly clarify before I go through the actual process.

O.k.  Here goes:

Question 1:  I believe that understand that when I reseed the blockchain.info wallet onto the ledger nano s, then more or less, I have created a copy of access to the coins that I see through the blockchain.info wallet through the ledger.  So does that mean that after I reseed the ledger nano s, then I am going to be able to see the available BTC both through the blockchain.info wallet and ledger nano s wallet?  or does that mean that once I reseed the private keys to the ledger nano s wallet, then I will no longer be able to see them through the blockchain.info wallet?

Question 2:  You said that once I reseed the ledger nano s wallet, I should be able to see both the BTC and the BCH through the ledger nano s wallet software, and before I split them, they will be under the same private key; however, after I split them they will each have their own new private keys?  So, after I split the BTC and BCH, the wallet of the old private keys will become emptied of either BTC or BCH.. and the BTC and the BCH that was previously available in old wallet will each have new and separate private keys  and the old wallet will be completely empty of BTC and BCH -

Question 3) assuming that the old wallet is completely empty of BTC and BCH,  I should still be able to use those old private keys in that "empty" old wallet to claim other air drops that had taken place before the August 1 forking (in which I had bitcoins under those private keys), such as clams, steller or byteball?