Where we obsess over the latest scandals, scammers, and pre-mines. Where new coins are valued more because of how new and profitable they are rather than their benefits to the eco-system. When I first started getting into the Bitcoin craze, I was amazed at it's utility and optimistic mature community. These forums have turned into a strange, chaotic, pessimistic hang out that is driven by pure speculation. All I see and feel here is greed, and I have gotten caught up in it as well. I don't think this is what Satoshi had intended.