oh cool, another stealth launch so they could quietly mine coins on their own before it was publicly announced and the difficulty adjusted higher. Somehow the mining pool magically found the blockchain before public announcement and allowed people to mine? Really?

and just because a mining pool "isn't our business" doesn't change the fact that the devs continued to allow the chain to be mined before any announcement. They could have rebooted the chain from block 0 at the announcement, and re-compiled the wallet software to only point to the newly restarted chain so everyone had fair mining since block 1

When the announcement started it was already at block 13000!!!

and yes, they are premine, just because it took work to mine, doesn't mean its not premine. Any coins mined, with work or no work required, before public announcement is considered pre-mine

What a joke, yet a bunch of noobs don't hesitate to waste their time on this, cracks me up